The Bill Simmons Podcast
The NFL’s Holiday Overload, Darnold’s Crazy Year, Week 16 Murders, and Guess the Lines
Mon, 23 Dec 2024
The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Cowboys sneaking by the Buccaneers on 'SNF,' Commanders-Eagles, another Sam Darnold–led Vikings comeback, and Bengals-Browns (01:04), before discussing the Raiders dropping several spots in the draft order after beating the Jaguars, the Dolphins ending the 49ers' playoff hopes, Panthers-Cardinals, Jets-Rams, Patriots-Bills (28:51), the Saturday NFL games, Usyk-Fury, a bunch of NFL observations through 16 weeks, and a tribute to Rickey Henderson (53:19). Finally, they guess the lines for NFL Week 17 (01:05:47), and close the show with Parent Corner (01:25:26). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producers: Kyle Crichton and Chia Hao Tat The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What happened in the Cowboys vs. Buccaneers game?
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You can watch all the clips from this podcast on the Bill Simmons YouTube channel. Cousin Sal joins us every Sunday night. You can watch us live on YouTube on the Bill Simmons YouTube channel, or you can just watch us on the Spotify app because we run these as video podcasts. Coming up, the Cuz and I breaking down week 16 in a football stretch of games that will seemingly never end.
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Sal, are you happy? What are your emotions right now?
It's worth the wait. So worth the wait. I got to tell you, Bill. I know I can't root against them. I hate it. I know it cost us draft picks in certain order, and I know I have Tampa Bay to win the NFC South, and yet when that defense plays with the intensity that it did, it is very hard to root against the Cowboys. You have to feel that way, too. Come on. Come on.
I mean, your team didn't win, but you know what I'm saying, right?
I thought you were doing Collinsworth, but you're doing Sal.
I thought you were going to do that. This is the greatest game I've ever seen.
I've never seen a football game like this, Mike. It was the greatest everything. It was the greatest secondary. It was the greatest interception. That run from Baker was the greatest.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of the Raiders beating the Jaguars?
And you're going, what the fuck? Like, I definitely never wanted to bet on Kenny Pickett again in my life. But he actually wrote me in. I was like, he seems okay.
We're not offering insurance. Yeah, yeah. God bless, you know, Kami Phan and Ringer pregame show co-host Joe House. And I picked this Washington team to make the playoffs. And Jaden, thanks for the Offensive Rookie of the Year loot. But I can't wait to bet against this team in the wildcard round. I mean, the starting quarterback goes out.
Five turnovers for Washington and a drop pass, maybe the worst big drop pass of the year by Devonta Smith, which would have run the clock out.
There were two because there was that long one to Barkley, too, was another backbreaker that he should have. By the way, the Giants fans have always said he never catches those. He's got he's got like butterfingers on big pass plays. And that was he had another one. But the Devonta Smith one, there was a lot of those today, though, in the cold weather games. I think we forget how cold it is.
Like the Bills-Pats game, by the second half, everybody looked like they were wearing oven mitts.
Yeah, it's not as cold when we're screaming at the TV in our toasty living room.
You know, wearing a blanket.
Yeah. But, yeah, but Washington needed every bit of everything we just named to win that game. I mean, are they the full shit team? I mean, they, you know, starting with the Hail Mary, I know maybe a few unlucky breaks with injuries, but honestly, as a seven seed, I'm good.
10-5 right now? Mm-hmm. The Hail Mary was stupid. They had one other really stupid win. And then this one. But, I mean, this one they earned. You know? Like, you have... What was it? First down and goal from the nine under 20 seconds left. That should be, like, the most... It's like a nine-yard two-point conversion. Guy's wide open. The Eagles just completely fucked it up.
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Chapter 3: How did the Dolphins affect the 49ers' playoff hopes?
Chapter 4: What observations can we make about Week 16 of the NFL?
They actually have to go down and score a touchdown. There's like five minutes left and I'm sitting there on the couch. where I haven't moved for like, I don't know how many hours. And I'm like, I think Donald's going to get this. Like, I swear that was my feeling in the car. I was like, he's going to get it. I really think he's going to go down the field and score.
I thought you were going to do the orgasm face again. I was worried there. No, that was great.
Sitting on the couch. You know what's funny about those is when I'm doing that as a joke to make you laugh, and then it gets cut out as blog posts. It's like, look at this weirdo, dude.
I'm like... I'm literally doing a joke.
You can't cut that out and try to make fun of me when I'm doing a joke.
They caught you off guard?
Yeah, I was like, oh my God, what's he doing? It's like, I'm doing a joke. But anyway, Minnesota down four. And Darnold, he's done it, I don't know how many times this year. but there's seven, eight quarterbacks in the league that I feel like can get that done. It wasn't an easy scenario, but he's got these two great receivers that always seem to be open in the right times.
But that throw breaks through. He's got pressure cuts through throws like almost like a semi sidearm. He's got to beat the safety. It was just a great play. And then Gino became Gino at the end of the game.
They got a little lucky because they got the face mask. Was it a face mask called on Darnold? It's one of those things where there's three guys about to sack him and one of the idiots puts his hand on the face mask. You got to call that. There's nothing about it. But it was a great throw. And he is so... So cool on the pressure and marches him right down the field.
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Chapter 5: What do we predict for NFL Week 17 lines?
Chapter 6: How did the NFL games on Saturday impact playoff standings?
And you're going, what the fuck? Like, I definitely never wanted to bet on Kenny Pickett again in my life. But he actually wrote me in. I was like, he seems okay.
We're not offering insurance. Yeah, yeah. God bless, you know, Kami Phan and Ringer pregame show co-host Joe House. And I picked this Washington team to make the playoffs. And Jaden, thanks for the Offensive Rookie of the Year loot. But I can't wait to bet against this team in the wildcard round. I mean, the starting quarterback goes out.
Five turnovers for Washington and a drop pass, maybe the worst big drop pass of the year by Devonta Smith, which would have run the clock out.
There were two because there was that long one to Barkley, too, was another backbreaker that he should have. By the way, the Giants fans have always said he never catches those. He's got he's got like butterfingers on big pass plays. And that was he had another one. But the Devonta Smith one, there was a lot of those today, though, in the cold weather games. I think we forget how cold it is.
Like the Bills-Pats game, by the second half, everybody looked like they were wearing oven mitts.
Yeah, it's not as cold when we're screaming at the TV in our toasty living room.
You know, wearing a blanket.
Yeah. But, yeah, but Washington needed every bit of everything we just named to win that game. I mean, are they the full shit team? I mean, they, you know, starting with the Hail Mary, I know maybe a few unlucky breaks with injuries, but honestly, as a seven seed, I'm good.
10-5 right now? Mm-hmm. The Hail Mary was stupid. They had one other really stupid win. And then this one. But, I mean, this one they earned. You know? Like, you have... What was it? First down and goal from the nine under 20 seconds left. That should be, like, the most... It's like a nine-yard two-point conversion. Guy's wide open. The Eagles just completely fucked it up.
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Chapter 7: What tribute was paid to Rickey Henderson?
They actually have to go down and score a touchdown. There's like five minutes left and I'm sitting there on the couch. where I haven't moved for like, I don't know how many hours. And I'm like, I think Donald's going to get this. Like, I swear that was my feeling in the car. I was like, he's going to get it. I really think he's going to go down the field and score.
I thought you were going to do the orgasm face again. I was worried there. No, that was great.
Sitting on the couch. You know what's funny about those is when I'm doing that as a joke to make you laugh, and then it gets cut out as blog posts. It's like, look at this weirdo, dude.
I'm like... I'm literally doing a joke.
You can't cut that out and try to make fun of me when I'm doing a joke.
They caught you off guard?
Yeah, I was like, oh my God, what's he doing? It's like, I'm doing a joke. But anyway, Minnesota down four. And Darnold, he's done it, I don't know how many times this year. but there's seven, eight quarterbacks in the league that I feel like can get that done. It wasn't an easy scenario, but he's got these two great receivers that always seem to be open in the right times.
But that throw breaks through. He's got pressure cuts through throws like almost like a semi sidearm. He's got to beat the safety. It was just a great play. And then Gino became Gino at the end of the game.
They got a little lucky because they got the face mask. Was it a face mask called on Darnold? It's one of those things where there's three guys about to sack him and one of the idiots puts his hand on the face mask. You got to call that. There's nothing about it. But it was a great throw. And he is so... So cool on the pressure and marches him right down the field.
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Chapter 8: What insights do we have for the Parent Corner segment?
12?
And then barely 19 today? In 10 days, I think they have three touchdowns now.
And it's a lot of like, it's a little Chiefs-ish.
Yeah.
Where they're, if it's, if it feels like if it's close in the fourth quarter, you feel like they're going to pull it out and I'll show McVay and he's like high-fiving people and doing that whole thing. The other big scenario that happened today And you could feel coming Thursday after that game flipped with the Chargers and the Broncos.
It's like all of a sudden Cincinnati is doing the sleeper hold. And since then it's like one, two.
And it's like, oh, oh, the finger. Oh my God, what's going on?
They've won three straight. They're missing their left tackle and their right tackle. And their defense is awful. That was pretty good today. And yet somehow they're still alive. And if they're playing Denver at home next week and then at Pittsburgh, which might not mean anything.
Pittsburgh could be in that scenario where they're, oh, we're the sixth seed. We don't care if we're the seventh seed. It doesn't seem like teams really mind.
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