What She Buried | 6. Ghosts of Tricie's Past

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Justine van der Leun 1:08
When Quinetta told me about the killing of Michael Giles, I felt like we were getting closer to what had happened, to what she did, and to who she was. But I kept circling back to the same question. Why? I didn't accept the prosecution's theory. That Quinnetta was an evil mastermind, some diabolical manipulator. That she had planned Michael Giles' murder well in advance. I thought she and Michael Giles probably did have an altercation the night of his murder. And she had, for many years, repeated the same thing. During that altercation, he sexually assaulted her with his gun. After that though. She laid out for me such a strange series of events. She said she calmed Michael Giles down. She gave him a bowl of vanilla ice cream and some Benadryl.
Justine van der Leun 2:03
She soothed him. Offered him a massage, took his gun, put it to his skull, and then Shot him point blank. It kept asking her versions of the same question. What was going through your head then?
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I'm busy. I was scared and I was angry. And I remember my lawyer said, never admit you're angry.
Justine van der Leun 2:29
Do you think that Your reaction to him in that moment? Was not just your action to him in that moment, but
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to Looking back on it now it Thinking about things that happened and just responds some no more. Tired. Nope. You're not gonna do this. No. And um I think it was more than me and him in that room at the end. goes through Tracy's past. That's what I call 'em. Things that have happened to me in the past were in that room with us.
Justine van der Leun 3:01
I wanted to find those ghosts. So Soon after our meeting, I went looking for them. I wasn't sure what I would uncover. But I thought that if I went backward in Quinetta's life. I might have some chance at understanding the here and now. From Sony Music Entertainment and Campside Media, this is What She Buried. I'm Justine Vanderloon. Episode six Ghosts of Tracy's Past.
Justine van der Leun 3:44
One of my main interests when I report on women in prison is how common abuse histories are. Some studies have found that up to ninety-four percent of women in prison were sexually or physically abused before they ended up behind bars. My own work has focused on women who are in prison because they reacted to abuse or assault. From the first time Quinnetta contacted me, she was talking about this. What I read in academic reports and found in my research for my book, Unreasonable Women, she saw it all around her. Everyone she met in prison had their own story of abuse, even if some of them couldn't or wouldn't see it. One of Quinetta's neighbors in solitary once casually mentioned that her grandfather had sex with her starting when she was thirteen.
Justine van der Leun 4:33
Quinetta tried to break it to the neighbor. You were raped. No.

How does the investigation into Michael Giles’ murder begin and what are the key details?

Justine van der Leun 4:39
The neighbor said. He was making sure I didn't have a bad first experience. I knew it was wrong. I still did it every time. For Quinnetta, it was easy to talk about what had happened to other people. But early on she wrote to me. The stigma and shame of allowing myself to continually accept abusive behavior is stronger than the shame of being a convicted murderer. I'm not too eager, she wrote, to tell my most shameful experiences. I wonder how many more are like me. Over time. Quinnetta opened up about those shameful experiences, events that had, in part, defined her life, set it on its course.

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