Chapter 1: What does endurance reading mean and why is it significant?
Hi there. You're listening to The Bookshelf on RN Summer. I'm Kate Evans.
And I'm Cassie McCullough. And as always, we have a stack of books for you to think about.
Including gothic fiction and creepy recommendations from Chris Womensley.
Julianne Schultz from Griffith Review on our new digital lives and reading habits.
And critic BJ Silcox on endurance reading.
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Chapter 2: How do gothic fiction and trauma literature influence reading habits?
You know, Cassie, those books that you think you should read, but they're full of way too much blood or pain or trauma. So should you keep turning the pages?
Tricky question.
Have you ever read something through gritted teeth?
Or should that be through gritted, painful eyelids?
Chapter 3: What is a misery memoir and how did it evolve in literature?
And I'm not talking about books that are simply difficult, painful, emotional, violent or scary or so experimental they make your head spin. but rather those that might feel gratuitous or sickening or morally compromising in some way. There's at least one crime writer, for example, I stopped reading because of the relish with which women were tortured in really quite extreme ways.
Well, writer and critic BJ Silcox felt that something was up with a few books and TV shows that she thought everyone was reading and talking about. And she wrote about her discomfort in an article in the Australian Book Review called The Art of Pain, Writing in the Age of Trauma. And although she lives in Cairo now, she spoke to me from a studio in London.
I started by asking her about the term misery memoir and what it means.
It's a really great question. In the 1980s, a strain of memoir started to emerge that became really strong in the mid-90s, that were these very honest, very earnest stories about abuse and suffering. They were mostly sold not in bookstores, but in supermarkets. They were marketed mostly to women. And they were stories that were written by ordinary people who'd suffered extraordinary trauma. And
The misery memoir term was a kind of a pejorative term that publishers attached to them because they were a little bit embarrassed about selling what they thought were sort of embarrassing stories that belonged more in therapists' offices than in people's hands. But they really resonated with people.
They resonated because they're stories that had never been told before, stories of child abuse, stories of surviving profound sexual abuse or physical trauma.
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Chapter 4: What ethical questions arise from reading about trauma?
I also immediately think of books like Angela's Ashes by Frank McCourt and those other whole life stories that were about privation and struggle. Are they part of that genre as well?
Absolutely. And they were the ones that sort of crossed out of the dark sort of underground of books and into the bookstores and into the bestseller lists, the ones that were you know, that got a lot of attention because they were beautifully written stories and they resonated far more widely and sort of crossed over into mainstream literary culture.
But what impact did this style of writing have on what we might call literary fiction?
I think for a while, a long while, we've been in denial that there was any impact whatsoever. We were, publishers particular, talked about misery literature like they were getting their hands dirty, like these were stories that didn't belong in bookshops. But
Certainly the fact that they resonated so strongly with people and a good example of that is that one of the places they sold so strongly were in Ireland where child sexual abuse is something that was very closeted but was widespread and people wanted to talk about it and didn't have a way or a means to share their experiences.
And so this sense that openness about trauma and bravery about talking about trauma had kind of infiltrated popular culture and started to infiltrate literary culture because literature is a mirror. It reflects what we care about back to ourselves and the stories that we tell about ourselves.
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Chapter 5: How do personal experiences shape one's reading preferences?
So it's inevitable that it's turned up in our more prize-winning, highbrow literary culture.
And that shelf on which what we might call misery literature sits, it's actually quite a broad one, I think. And so what I want to do to get a clearer sense of the argument that you're making about this, BJ, is to move from the abstract into a quite direct and personal reading experience that you had before we then move back to the sort of critical implications of it.
Now, a few years ago, two books were published that were huge in this field. Hanya Yanagihara's A Little Life and Gabriel Talent's My Absolute Darling. Can you briefly describe them before we get to your own experience of reading them?
Absolutely. So A Little Life, which was, as you described, absolutely massive. It was a book that everyone was putting into everyone else's hands. It deeply affected people. It's a book about A young man and the circle of friends in which he grows up, college friends who are in New York together in the 80s, 90s and noughties, sort of grapple with what it means to be young men in New York.
Except our protagonist, Jude, has suffered extraordinary, and I mean absolutely extraordinary, a history of ornate Baroque suffering. And he brings this history of incredible brokenness to his adulthood and he's unable, sadly, to escape that.
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Chapter 6: What impact does digital technology have on reading and writing?
The novel, while it begins as a kind of coming-of-age tale, these young men full of vim and vigour attacking New York, it sort of circles in and becomes a story about how these friendships circle around Jude's irredeemable trauma. So very affecting.
Then the second book, My Absolute Darling, is about a young girl called Turtle whose mother has died and she's being brought up by her survivalist father in California. She's isolated from friends, isolated from family, and her father routinely rapes her.
And it's a book, from her perspective, loving her father because he's the only family, the only person that she has, but also understanding that the things that are happening to her, the abuse that's happening to her, which is, again, detailed in incredible, ornate detail, is wrong in a way that she doesn't know how to explain or escape from, but also is, in a sense...
caught in, in a way that means it's almost impossible to untangle from her life where she stops and her father begins. So both of them are books that are united by this sense of being anchored in what the body can stand.
So what happened to you when you read those two books? What impact did that reading have on you?
So I first read A Little Life because every person that I knew, every reader that I knew, was
avidly putting this into my hands enthusiastically and they were all saying to me this book is extraordinary I've never read anything like it it moved me in a way that I've never been moved before and I take that really seriously as as most of your listeners will you take the recommendations of the people you love seriously and I sat down and I read this book and I was completely and utterly alienated by it I felt like I was being manipulated and I wasn't able to escape and that
what I was being rewarded with, with perseverance, was more suffering. That the reward for staying with Jude's story was to find out just how broken and just how hurt he was. And it haunted me.
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Chapter 7: How can literature reflect cultural and societal shifts?
And I had these questions about, as a reader, what was I meant to be doing with this information? What was my purpose? What was my role here? Was I meant to be Was I meant to be watching him suffer? Was I meant to be empathizing? Was I meant to be standing in for him? What was I meant to be learning? And I had all of these questions and I didn't know how to answer them.
And they haunted me for a long time. And so a number of years went by and I had these questions sitting here about the ethics of readership. And then I read Gabrielle Talent's novel this past summer and the same questions recurred. And so I was prompted to write an article about it.
And when I started to ask questions of the people around me, I realised that a lot of people had been asking the same questions but didn't have a way of putting them into words, that the culture around us has sort of moved into a space where exploring suffering, engaging in it, in fact immersing ourselves in suffering has become a kind of authorial heroism and staring it down as a reader or a watcher of television or in movies has become a way in which we're sort of
morally engaging with our culture in order to to be a good moral citizen we have to to watch the suffering happen let's talk more about what it is that you're arguing because you're not saying that we shouldn't write about pain are you absolutely not and i think it's extraordinary that people can and that people do and i think it's important that people do we're often attracted to fictional depictions of trauma we're attracted to it on screen in things like
The Handmaid's Tale, we're attracted to it in books like A Little Life. But often the misery literature genre, which was so derided by publishers when it first kind of emerged, is now blossoming in a way that's available to us, but often ignored at the expense of literary fiction that garners a lot of prizes and a lot of acclaim.
So that the real life accounts of women who've suffered extraordinary sexual abuse are are not read at the expense of fictional accounts and so I was asking myself as a reader why is it that we go to fictional accounts rather than real accounts and so I was asking myself What is it that we're asking from the books that we read as much as what those books are asking of us?
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Chapter 8: What are the future implications of digital reading habits?
One of the things that interested me when I read Hanya Yanagihara's A Little Life was how much the people around me talked about it as a sort of endurance effort of writing about pain and loss. violence and trauma. And it made me think about other books that I had read in which, in a way, I'd found the violence more confronting, harder to read, but for different reasons.
And one of the books I thought about was by Philip Meyer called The Sun. The Sun, S-O-N, Sun. And it's a historical novel that is partly about the American frontier and it's about Native Americans and the violence that they experienced as well as certain acts of violence that they enacted. And that had much more of a profound effect on me in terms of the colonial violence.
And I kept on thinking about how much with A Little Life and with Gabriel Talent, what was missing is a sort of context and history.
I think that's an extraordinary point to make. And part of the centre of my essay is arguing that. I love The Sun. I think it's a wonderful novel, one of my favourite novels of the year when it came out. And for precisely that reason, that the suffering that we see in that novel is is given historical context, historical weight, historical explanation.
And because of that, we're asked to make meaning from it in a way that has implications for how we think about ourselves in the world. And it was also quite hard to read at times, wasn't it? Again, very explicit, very ornate. And I think one of the things that sort of brings this together as an aesthetic movement is the aestheticisation of the violence.
And that's sort of what separates it out from what we see in misery literature is When we bring it into the literature we see in bookstores, the literature that's on the fiction bestseller list, what we're seeing is violence that's both made intense and made beautiful. But I was able to see my purpose in that as a reader.
My purpose was to stare down a history that had been for a long time a forgotten history, to contextualise it with what I knew about the West and what I knew about the American sort of colonialization of the West and the complexities of that story that hadn't been explored before. In the novels that made me so uncomfortable, the violence was almost hermetically sealed.
It was in a vacuum and we don't know when it starts and we don't understand how it finishes and we're just asked to sort of sit inside of it. The violence is the thing that pushes the plot onwards. The trauma is the driver of the narrative.
When you endure it, your reward is to understand exactly how broken the person is, is not to understand their context, is not to understand what might be done or its place in history. It's just to witness it.
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