Albo takes AI fight to UN + Why we’ll never win the 'war on drugs'

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Sasha Barbour Gatt 0:02
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Chris Spyrou 0:08
Hey, it's Chris Brewer with you. Happy Monday and welcome to The Briefing. Australia is one of the world's biggest consumers of illicit drugs and our country's top cop reckons a conversation about how our habits are filling the pockets of organised crime might just be enough to curb our appetite. But my guest today says that conversation misses the point.
Alison Ritter 0:27
64% of government spending is in law enforcement and 1.6% is in harm reduction. So that's not a very balanced picture.
Chris Spyrou 0:38
That chat about how Australia should be tackling the, quote, war on drugs is coming up in the second half of this episode. First, though, let's get into the headlines with Sasha Barbagat. It's Monday, the 21st of September.
Sasha Barbour Gatt 0:51
Hey, Chris, and happy Monday to you listening. We are starting in the US where Anthony Albanese is today launching Australia's bid for a temporary seat on the United Nations Security Council. It is the UN's most powerful body, the one that makes the calls on global peace and conflict. And the PM is pitching the campaign, We Listen, We Partner, We Protect, to dozens of world leaders who are gathered in New York for this year's UN General Assembly.
Chris Spyrou 1:16
and as to his selling point he's going to push really hard that australia is a first mover on online safety ai and tech rules plus a leader in climate change discussions now there are two seats up for grabs on the 15 member council from 2029 australia last held one back in 2013 and 2014 but this is a long game the vote doesn't open until mid-2028 and that is a secret ballot where australia needs two-thirds of un members on side That's at least 128 countries. Yeah,
Sasha Barbour Gatt 1:49
and I believe it's just Australia and Finland who have nominated at this point and said we'd like those seats. So Australia is looking good, but yeah, it is a long game. Not till mid-2028. We're still two years away from the actual vote.

What is Australia’s strategy for winning a UN Security Council seat?

Sasha Barbour Gatt 2:00
And look, this all comes after Albanese kicked off his US trip in Silicon Valley, where he met with the former Apple boss, Tim Cook. Cook. Now, Cook walked him through the safety features that Apple's built into its devices, extra parental controls and screen time limits as well. Now, AI has been such a hot topic of conversation and Albo, after this meeting with Tim Cook, did double down on his call to rein in AI, arguing governments and tech giants must keep humans in control.
Chris Spirou 2:30
And that's a theme of all of the actions that we are taking, whether it's the social media ban, whether it is the digital duty of care, or whether it be the AI Australian standards. How do we make sure that people are in control rather than the technology in control of us?
Sasha Barbour Gatt 2:49
The PM on ABC's Insiders there, he also called for a global framework and said he wants the US and China to strike a deal.
Chris Spirou 2:57
President Trump, of course, will act in the interests of the United States, but also there's a need for all of us to act in the interests of humanity. I think it's a positive sign that President Trump is meeting President Xi this week. And I am hopeful that there will be positive engagement
Chris Spyrou 3:19
out of it. Yeah, so this all comes after those big bosses of the AI labs were like, hey, we've got to slow down on AI development. And then Trump was like, no, we're not going to go slow because China is going to beat us there and we want to win this race. Interestingly, in that interview, Albo kind of referred to it very similarly to the nuclear arms race. And he was kind of framing AI in that way. Look, this is going to be spoken about all week long with Albo there. He's there with Penny Wong as well. And I'm pretty sure Communications Minister Annika Wells. So they will be talking up a lot of what Australia is doing on this front. I don't think we're going to get any new announcements or new developments.
Chris Spyrou 3:54
Just a whole lot of, hey, hey, well, this is what we're doing.
Sasha Barbour Gatt 3:57
Yeah, well, it's interesting because Donald Trump has really been coming out hard in support of AI specifically kind of as it is. He's looking at the conversation of, you know, AI could destroy humanity and it's dangerous as a hoax or a conspiracy.

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