The Kenneth Copeland Interview (EP 186)

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What does Kenneth Copeland believe about prosperity and health?

Bryce Crawford 0:00

It's hard for me to wrap my mind around this idea that God wants everyone to be wealthy, everyone to be healthy, and things like that.

Kenneth Copeland 0:07

No, he doesn't say that. He wants everybody to prosper. Being rich is more than enough to take care of what you have and enough left over.

Bryce Crawford 0:17

to help somebody take care of themselves. The thing that's more attractive to people about this prosperity, health, and wealth message is those things rather than Jesus. Where do you find, hey, this is something I enjoy versus this is something that may be sitting on the throne of my heart? Before we get into this interview, there's a couple things that I want to tell you guys about. Kenneth Copeland is a prosperity gospel preacher who teaches another gospel that says God wants every Christian to be healthy, wealthy, and prosper. And if you aren't doing those things as a Christian, then it is your fault. I want to clarify, I do not agree with the prosperity gospel. That's the whole reason why we sat down.

Bryce Crawford 0:50

When we got the opportunity to do the first sit-down interview with Kenneth Copeland in over 15 years, I made it very clear to them. I was like, hey guys, I disagree. I'm going to be very respectful in the conversation, but I do not agree with the prosperity gospel. And so this interview is a little bit different, where I sat back and asked a lot more questions from a journalistic perspective, whereas I want to understand where he gets this doctrine from. I really don't understand. I want to know how he finds it in Scripture, what that looks like to the person, and ask a lot of questions and do more digging to let the idea speak for itself so that we can understand why the true gospel is important.

Bryce Crawford 1:21

You know, I believe Paul makes a good case in

How does Kenneth Copeland define true prosperity?

Bryce Crawford 1:23

2 Corinthians, that sometimes God allows a thorn in our side to keep us humble and reliant on him. And so it was fun to hear his perspective and challenge him, even though I disagree. And I want to be very cautious by going into this. But also my heart was 1 Timothy 5. Kenneth Copeland is in the latter parts of his age. He's a little bit older. And I tried to do my best to best to hold to 1 Timothy 5, which says, do not rebuke an old man, but appeal to him as a father. And so I tried to come at him with challenges as if I was challenging my father and not a harsh rebuke, quote unquote. So I pray that as you watch this interview, you listen to it. He's going to tell a lot of his stories. And then when we get into the prosperity part, that the questions that I ask, I pray that they compel you

Bryce Crawford 2:07

in such a way to thank God for the true gospel and not that God just wants material things for our life, but that God wants us and that he is the prize, even if we lose everything, because that is the goal. I love you guys. Thank you again to the Copeland Network. You guys were extremely hospitable to us and welcoming us to have this sit-down interview and enjoy this episode.

What is the significance of the prosperity gospel according to Kenneth Copeland?

Bryce Crawford 2:26

If you're a Christian and you say that you believe in truth, we need to live truth out, whether it's in word, in deed, or businesses that you support. It is essential to the Christian walk that in everything that we do, we do it for the glory of God. That's why I want to tell you guys about my friends at Patriot Mobile. Patriot Mobile isn't just some wireless company. It's America's only Christian conservative wireless provider, and they've been fighting for faith, family, and freedom from the get-go and the start of their company. They are activists for Christ, and they walk out their activism by providing the most reliable wireless service nationwide. The best thing about Patriot Mobile is that they offer service on the top three major networks, and you get the same coverage or even better if you switch or start the day.

Bryce Crawford 3:02

And most importantly, their customer service is 100% US-based. If you're going to pay for phone service anyways, why wouldn't you support a company that actually has Christian values and morals? And the heart behind the company is to see the gospel go forth. Switching is way easier than you think.