Al Gore: Trump Has Made a Historic Mistake

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What historical context does Al Gore provide about U.S.-Iran relations?

Tim Miller 0:13
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Could not be more excited about today's guest. He is marking the 20th anniversary of his Oscar-winning documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, which raised awareness about climate change and led to the founding of the Climate Reality Project, which will be holding leadership trainings to mark the anniversary coming up soon, including in Nashville, where he will be. It's, of course, the former Vice President of the United States, Al Gore. Strange world that led us here, sir, but I really appreciate it. Can I call you Al? What are you going on?
Al Gore 0:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that works. Yeah, and Tim, thank you for having me on with you. I've followed your work with great interest and growing enthusiasm. Thank you for what you're doing, and it's an honor for me to be with you today. I appreciate that.
Tim Miller 1:01
I don't know. My former boss, Jeb, has got to be looking at this going, I don't know what happened.

How does Al Gore assess Trump's handling of climate change?

Tim Miller 1:05
I don't know. I don't know who it is. But I love that we come to this place. I appreciate your monitoring the work. I want to start with get to climate, then we're obviously going to get to the news. Before we do that, just in case I lost you, I feel absolutely compelled, though, to start with one. item of personal privilege. There were some rumors that you were the heroic tank man recently when Howard Nutlick was speaking at a recent conference and you were booing him. You were a solo booer. And I want to play for you his rendition of what happened on Fox News.
Unknown 1:36
basically a very left set of talks where someone said, we need a new form of capitalism, which I think is another way to say communism. And then they let me speak at the end. Then I gave a three minute talk and I just talked about my op-ed. And at the end of my talk, one person out of the 200 yelled out, boo. So I look over and I'm like, who booed?

What significant changes in the global economy does Gore highlight?

Unknown 2:00
And it's Al Gore. And I go to, I look at him, I go, really? And he goes, boo. And I I'm like, boo.
Al Gore 2:08
Is that true? Well, part of it. But no, it's not true. But it was an interesting experience, Tim. You know, President Trump brought Ludnick and several others with him to the Davos. meeting at a time when the U.S. is Trump is trying to split the U.S. off from our historic partners in Western Europe and elsewhere. And anyway, Lutnik was surprisingly outright insulting to our hosts there in the dinner. That's really kind of what

What are the implications of Trump's foreign policy decisions?

Al Gore 2:48
offended me. I didn't interrupt his speech in any way, but, you know, I looked around and... A respectful boo at the end, though? Well, I just felt like, you know, I had made no secret of the fact that I think that the Trump group's whole approach to climate is just utterly insane. And for him to stand and repeat those falsehoods. Anyway, I just expressed what I felt. And it was interesting after that, because I got up and left and Essentially, everybody did, even though the dessert course remained and there was another speaker. But everybody left. And anyway, a small thing. I kind of think boo is the nicest thing you could have done. One of my close friends wrote me and said it was not elegant, but it was eloquent.
Okay.
Tim Miller 3:44
Yeah, there you go. Like I said, I think it's about the nicest thing you could do for Howard Lutnick.

How does Gore view the current state of climate activism?

Tim Miller 3:48
You could have held up a sign, what happened on Epstein Island, a lot of potential protests for our Commerce Secretary. But we'll move on to the climate stuff. As I mentioned, so it's a 20-year anniversary, which is kind of crazy. Time flies. And, you know, there's so much going on in the news with Trump from time to time, and I feel sometimes bad that on the show, like, we don't check in enough about, like, what is happening on the climate issue. And I guess it was a couple months ago now, I had David Wallace-Wells on and was just, you know, who'd written a great book on climate. And I just said, for those of us who aren't, you know, following the science journals, like, get us up to speed. And so I guess I kind of want to start there with you.
Tim Miller 4:24
Like, thinking back to 20 years ago... when the Inconvenient Truth came out.

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