Anne Applebaum and Jacob Frey: Using Lies to Justify Violence
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What new evidence has emerged about the shooting of Renee Good?
Hey, everybody. After I taped both these interviews this morning, there was a release of video footage, new video footage from the ICE agent that shot and killed Rene Good from his perspective. And I taped an extensive second-by-second breakdown of that, which you can find over on the board takes feed on your audio platform of choice or on YouTube or Substack. For me, it more than confirms everything that we discuss on this show that I've discussed the last few days. And it shows somebody that was the one piece of information we learned is that Rene Good had greeted him pleasantly and said, I'm not mad. 20 seconds before he shoots her. It's an unbelievable piece of footage. Just one note in that video, you know, this is all moving very fast.
I called it body cam footage. We later learned it was from his cell phone, which he's carrying in his left hand. Well, he's firing off three bullets with his right hand, which needless to say is not... S-O-P for an agent of the state. So go over there to check out more on that. Appreciate very much our guest today and all of you. We'll see you back here next week. Up next, Mayor Jacob Fry.
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We have a doubleheader for you today. In the second segment, it's our friend Ann Applebaum with an autocracy update, both at home and abroad. Look forward to getting to that. But first, we wanted to add the perspective from somebody who can talk to us directly about what's happening on the ground in Minneapolis. And so I'm excited to welcome to the show the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me. Happy to do it. Unfortunate, the circumstances. I want to start just by talking narrowly about the shooting of Rene Good and kind of what we know at this point. One of the things I think has been getting lost in the discussion a little bit, I'm curious your perspective on is like, what were the ICE agents doing in the neighborhood at all?
Like what was happening in that neighborhood in Minneapolis when the shooting occurred?
I don't think the ICE agents know what the ICE agents are doing in general. They seem to be rolling around neighborhoods without a clear agenda other than to terrorize people. And this stems back from some of the original direction that was given when I believe they went into Minneapolis. And granted, some of this is speculation, but I think I'm right. I think that somebody from pretty high up told them, go to Minneapolis. find a bunch of Somalis to deport. And then they get here looking for the big meatpacking plant or factory where they can find a bunch of undocumented Somalis. Only thing is it doesn't exist because they're Americans. They're American citizens. And when they figured out that they couldn't do the thing legally or constitutionally that they wanted to do, they just started rolling around
the city terrorizing people. And granted, it's winter, it's Minneapolis, and we got ice and snow and they suck at driving in it. And so I don't know exactly what they were doing on this particular block at this particular time, but it clearly wasn't productive.
And that's truly crazy. They'd pitch this all as they're going after the worst of the worst. They're going after these drug dealers and these criminals. And is that even a neighborhood with a lot of immigrants? Going door to door of neighborhood with our taxpayer dollars with masked thugs doesn't seem to be an efficient use of anybody's
Yeah, I don't know as much going door to door is what we've been seeing. But what is clear is they don't know exactly what they are doing. And by the way, you mentioned, you know, criminals and murderers and we're anti murderers here. We are anti-crime. We have worked extensively with federal agencies to investigate murders, to drive down shootings. We've worked with the U.S. Attorney's Office, the DEA, the ATF, the FBI to successfully drive down crime on, for instance, the north side of Minneapolis. We've seen the lowest level of shootings on record there.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What new evidence has emerged about the shooting of Renee Good?
0:00–5:21
2
What is Mayor Jacob Frey's perspective on ICE operations in Minneapolis?
5:21–10:17
3
How does the federal government justify the actions of ICE agents?
10:17–14:09
4
What are the implications of the ICE incident for local communities?
14:09–20:16
5
How does Anne Applebaum connect autocracy and the actions of federal agents?
20:16–24:59
6
What is the current state of political unrest in Venezuela?
24:59–31:02
7
How do U.S. actions affect international relations with Europe?
31:02–38:22
8
What are the broader implications of using lies to justify violence?
38:22–1:09:00
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