David French: MAGA Is Bleeding Numbers

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What recent changes are impacting the Republican Party's unity?

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David French 0:06
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Tim Miller 1:42
Hello and welcome to The Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back one of our favorites. He's an opinion columnist for The New York Times. He's also co-host of the legal podcast, Advisory Opinions. It's David French. How are you doing, David? Tim, great to see you. Good to see you as well.

What is the significance of the Trump versus Slaughter case?

Tim Miller 1:57
A bunch to get into. I want to start with what is happening at the Supreme Court. We are going to get at the end to some real weird stuff happening in MAGA world.
David French 2:08
I promise you that. Tim, that's so uncharacteristic. You're saying there's some weird stuff going on with MAGA? No, no. Okay, I'm skeptical.
Tim Miller 2:16
We'll see. Sometimes everybody has, what is it, the strange cousin? It's just for MAGA, it's all the cousins.
Yeah.
Tim Miller 2:25
I haven't had a chance to talk about it this week, but on Monday, we had arguments in the Trump versus Slaughter case, which is about giving Trump and giving any president more powers to fire civil servants. So actually, why don't you just explain the case and what you think is happening?
David French 2:40
Yeah, yeah.

How are free speech protections evolving in today's political climate?

David French 2:41
So on Monday, the court heard arguments in Trump v. Slaughter, which is this case about the firing of an FTC commissioner. Now, this is one of those really interesting areas where old school conservatism meets Trumpism. Well, I wouldn't say meets Trumpism. There's some overlap with Trumpism. And that is that the FTC is one of these multi-member commissions created years ago. There's a number of these. where they're located in the executive branch, but they're kind of hybrid agencies. They're supposed to be in the executive branch, but also immune from some degree of executive branch oversight. You can only fire the commissioners for cause, for example. And this has been something that conservatives for a long time, legal conservatives,
David French 3:28
have really bristled at because they look at these multi-member commissions as almost creating a kind of a new branch of government. They're not really under the control of the legislature. They're not really totally control of the president. They result in, in the conservative argument, one that I happen to share, they result in kind of an entrenched bureaucracy that isn't really accountable purely accountable to the president, not purely accountable to Congress, not really accountable to the people because it's so far removed from the people.

What role do conspiracy theories play in MAGA politics?

David French 4:00
And this is kind of a legacy and hangover of the progressive era, sort of this idea that, you know, look, administrative states need a lot of technocratic expertise and we need to insulate technocratic expertise from political accountability. And, you know, there are problems attached to that. The way I've described what's going on here with the court is we're very much, Tim, at what I would say a fork in the road. Think of it as we've got one of two destinations, the good place or the bad place.
Tim Miller 4:30
There's no purgatory in this world? No.
David French 4:32
Nope, nope, nope.

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