David Frum: Trump and Epstein Were Best Friends
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What insights does David Frum share about the friendship between Trump and Epstein?
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Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back. You don't need his full bio. We've done it a million times now. He's the host of the David Frum Show now, which I'm not considering a competitor. It's not hurting my feelings that there's a new competitor in the podcast space. It's very good and very serious. You should go listen to that if you're not. It's David Frum. How you doing, sir?
I'm well, it's not a competitor because the guiding philosophy of the show is no concessions to listener taste. It's just like, it's just, we are going there for, you know, monetary policy, trade policy. Yeah. It's the eat your peas approach to podcasting.
That is to certain listeners taste though. With the podcast numbers, it's like everything else. It's revealed preference. Yeah. You know, I get many, I get emails from people saying, I wish you would do more David from style shows. And then I have a historian on or something and you see the numbers go down and it's like, well, you know, I, it's, it's, I appreciate it though. It's important to get some peas from time to time. It can't be all fried chicken.
It can't be all Epstein all the time.
And let's start with Jeffrey Epstein. How about that? In this case, though, it certainly deserved. The files are allegedly to be released today. But just before we started taping, Todd Blanche told us that we're not going to see everything, which is not a surprise to me. He said this on Fox. I expect we're going to release several hundred thousand documents today, and those documents will come in all different forms. Kyle Cheney has been following this closely, writes, the bottom line is the Trump administration is missing today's legal deadline to release the files. Blanche says many will be released on a rolling basis over the next couple of weeks. Curious what percentage of the total files hundreds of thousands is.
Look, my guiding rule for all of the Trump presidency has been a phrase I've used over and over again, and that is many secrets, no mysteries. There's a lot you don't know about Epstein and Trump, and there's really nothing you don't know about Epstein and Trump. They were best friends. The only photos you ever see of Donald Trump where he is authentically smiling in the presence of another human being is with Jeffrey Epstein. And Putin, he hero worshiped. With Putin, he's like the little kid. And Putin is the captain of the high school football team. He admires Putin. He hopes to grow up to be Putin. But they're not friends because they're not equals. But Epstein, that was a friend. And they had all the same interests, stealing, sexual assault.
And they may have, in the end, fallen out over a real estate deal. But they were so close so long. And they knew each other so well. And this whole idea that Donald Trump was the QAnon hero of rescuing victims of sex trafficking, I mean, how gullible did you ever have to be to believe that?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What insights does David Frum share about the friendship between Trump and Epstein?
0:00–6:07
2
How is the MAGA movement responding to economic challenges?
6:07–11:49
3
What are the implications of recent SCOTUS rulings on public corruption?
11:49–19:39
4
How are tariffs impacting the construction industry and housing market?
19:39–25:36
5
What are the potential consequences of Trump's foreign policy in Venezuela?
25:36–31:00
6
How does the podcast discuss the role of cryptocurrency in public corruption?
31:00–36:33
7
What are the ethical concerns surrounding Trump's business dealings?
36:33–41:09
8
How does the episode conclude on the topic of Trump's influence on democracy?
41:09–55:56
Speakers
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