If Marco Rubio was NOT playing the long game masquerading as a patriotic neocon who gets placed in the State Department to then give Russia everything it wanted, what would he be doing differently? Meanwhile, a Democratic version of the Tea Party may be brewing, the tensions between Elon and Russ Vought are likely to pop out, and a psychoanalyst needs to explain Mitch McConnell. Plus, the Saudis are getting their claws in our sports with a LIV-PGA deal and Trump's astonishingly corrupt involvement. And also -- Trump doesn't know ball. Pablo Torre and David Graham join Tim Miller. show notes David's forthcoming book, "The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America" David's newsletter on the Department of Education Pablo's podcast, "Pablo Torre Finds Out"
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Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome to the pod, David Graham. He's the new lead author of the Atlantic Daily Newsletter. He's got a book out in April, The Project, How Project 2025 is Reshaping America. What's up, man? How's it going? Well, welcome to the unofficial podcast of the Atlantic Magazine.
I just wanted to make sure to include, you know, our flagship newsletter writer. I'm still waiting for Jeff Goldberg to start you know, giving me a little vague on the subscriptions that come in with all the Atlantic guests, but I haven't quite, I haven't quite cut the deal yet. I mean, I need, I need Donald Trump to do some deal making for me. That's right. Well, I wanted to start here.
I want to do obviously a lot of project 2025 stuff. And there's been a lot of Ukraine news. But I want to start with this and just get your take on it. People keep demanding this Rogan of the left. And so I've decided that I'm going to try to fill the role from time to time when it comes to conspiracy mongering. Great.
If you're going to have Rogan on the left, you got to be comfortable with a little bit, you know, kind of dabbling in some conspiracies. And here's one I've been noodling on. Do you think it's possible that Marco Rubio is a Cuban communist agent who's been kind of playing the long game?
And they placed him here and dressed him up as a neocon, just waiting for the right moment where they could take this patriotic explant and turn him into an asset that gives Russia everything they ever wanted.
Well, you know, we had that situation a few years ago where there was a foreign service agent who was a long running Cuban sleeper cell. So we know this is the sort of thing they do. I think you get this going.
Yuri Bezmenov, the Russian KGB guy said that, you know, their goals was to change people's concept of reality. What better way to do that than to put a Cuban neocon expat and the State Department together? It's confusing people. It's what would he be doing differently if this weren't the case, I guess would be another question that I would ask.
What would he be doing differently if he weren't a long running communist Cuban asset? I don't know. I know that the Atlantic has kind of different standards than what we're offering here on this podcast. So I don't want to put you in a corner. But you have to admit that you're a little intrigued.
Yes, I'm intrigued by the idea. I'm intrigued by what he would be doing differently if this is true. I mean, I think that's a good question. That's a useful question to ask outside of conspiracy theories.
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