Derek Thompson: The Party of Vicemaxxing
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What political news is discussed at the beginning of the podcast?
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. There is so much political news on this Tuesday. We've got primaries tonight in Iowa, a big Senate primary, California, governor and mayor's primary, also New Jersey, Montana, and New Mexico. Right as we started taping as well, Donald Trump... appointed his director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency and chairman of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bill Pulte, to serve as director of national intelligence. That's right. Bill Pulte, the hack grifter that used to, like... He'd be like the rich guy that gives away 500 bucks to people on Twitter if they follow him. The same guy who was digging into the mortgages of every opponent to Donald Trump, you know, who went after Tish James and others based on their mortgages.
He is now going to be the... DNI. He has no intelligence experience, no experience at all. I think it is pretty obvious why Donald Trump is putting somebody who has shown complete unapologetic shamelessness and going after his foes in a position will have access to a lot of material that will allow him to go after his foes. It's extremely alarming. So we'll get to Pulte, we'll get to the primaries and a bunch of other stuff on on The Next Level, which will be out here later on Tuesday. So make sure you're subscribed to The Next Level feed. But on this show, we'll bring back a longtime tech culture and political writer at The Atlantic. He's got his own sub stack now. He goes to plain English. He wrote some books, including Abundance.
He's got a new book coming out. It's Derek Thompson. What's up, man? What's up, man? Great to see you again. Good to see you. I want to start with one of the other news items, then we'll kind of tick through some of the stuff you've been covering. Yesterday, after we taped, the administration said that they were going to drop the Thug Fund, the slush fund, after a couple of court rulings against them. Minor good news, I guess, that the administration is following court rulings now. They had some pushback from Republicans on the Hill. We don't really know, you know, like, is the immunity part of the deal gone? Is Trump going to go back and try to get another deal? There are some unknowns, but I'm wondering what you make of the pullback on the slush fund.
It's incredibly welcome. I feel complicated about the fact that The justice system, the court system seems to be like the one bulwark, so to speak, against Trump's immorality. Like, you know, like it's every time he overreaches, the Republican Congress doesn't step up. The Republican Senate doesn't step up. Republican commentators, I suppose, object when it's the war in Iran. I've actually been very interested to see how much objection there's been among some of the top podcasters and commentators about the war in Iran, because typically this man has just been allowed to do whatever he wants. But over and over again, it's been the court system that provides any kind of blockage, any kind of limitation, any kind of constraint on someone who is so unlimited and unconstrained in his clear interest in being a dictator and being a king.
I mean, there's just no question to me that if that third branch of government didn't exist, that Trump would be slashing the federal workforce more. He'd be cutting programs even more that he thinks are part of the woke mind virus. He would be creating slush funds of not 1.8, but $10.8 billion, $100 billion for his friends and his thugs and people. who he believes have been either hurt by the democratic party or who he thinks can bend the knee and he can get something out of them so it's it's the same story over again you know this this happened with the tariff policy where trump was just essentially you know i think what did i call it at one point like uh the way they treat the law is as kind of like a control f monarchy function
Like they pull up all of the laws and all of the regulations and they essentially do like a control F function to see like what kind of esoteric law they can use in order to sort of rest kingly powers themselves.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What political news is discussed at the beginning of the podcast?
0:13–11:24
2
Why is the slush fund significant in the current political climate?
11:24–18:04
3
How does the justice system act as a bulwark against political corruption?
18:04–39:29
4
What is vicemaxxing and how does it relate to American politics?
39:29–1:00:43
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