Jane Coaston: The Epstein Revelations Keep Getting Worse
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back to the show the host of Crooked Media's What a Day podcast, a Michigan football superfan, liberalitarian icon. It's Jane Koston.
Hello.
Jane, it's been a minute and a half.
I'm thrilled to be back.
Yeah. What have I been doing? What's been happening in the booking department at this podcast? You know, we're going to get you in the heavy rotation. I guess we'll see how you do.
Well, you know, I've got a couple more applications and we'll see how this goes.
We're going to start by talking about a friend of the podcast, Howard Nutlick. He was testifying this morning in front of the Senate, and they were discussing the myriad times that he was mentioned in the Epstein files. I want to play for you a little audio of Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland asking him about the details.
The way you described very emphatically your first encounter with him in his apartment, said you were disgusted, would never have any contact with him again. Did you in fact make the visit to Jeffrey Epstein's private island
I did have lunch with him as I was on a boat going across on a family vacation. My wife was with me, as were my four children and nannies. I don't recall why we did it. Oh, you're a nanny.
I don't recall why we did it. Just to add a little bit to what Chris Van Hollen said there, just like the exact quote of what Nutlick had previously said about his relationship with Epstein. He said that he went to his house, that there was a massage table in the dining room. I told a fantastical story about how weird it was. And then he said this. In the six to eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again. After that, they did go to the island, though, it sounds like.
And they kept emailing. One of my favorite things about... Howard Lutnick is that he, whatever it is, he's the most emphatic person in any direction. He's like Lindsey Graham level emphatic. But if Lindsey Graham felt the way he feels about bombing Iran on like absolutely everything. So this story about him being like, this was disgusting, repulsive. This allegedly took place in 2005. I was on the boat. Did we get off the boat? Why was I there? My nanny was there.
What recent revelations have emerged about Howard Lutnick and Jeffrey Epstein?
My children were there. That would have been like 2012. Yeah. And then they kept emailing and were having nice times.
What was Howard Lutnick's testimony regarding his relationship with Epstein?
We've talked about this a little bit, Tim. At a baseline level, there's one reason you spend this much time with Jeffrey Epstein. And if it wasn't for that reason, what were you doing? He was terrible at emailing. Most of his emails don't make any sense. I had the extreme misfortune of watching part of the... documentary Steve Bannon was working on with him to a pro Epstein documentary to counter the Netflix documentary, Jeffrey Epstein, filthy rich, because Bannon was like, Oh, we got to get your side of the story. And they spend like a long time discussing the fact that Jesus never wrote anything down. And I'm like this year, sex offender King, this guy, this is what we're doing. This was worth all of this.
This guy, maybe the lunch was really good.
Yeah. I want to kind of answer your rhetorical there a little bit. What else could you have been emailing Jeffrey Epstein about besides child sex trafficking? Well, in 2018, 13 years after Lutnick said he would never be in the room with a disgusting person again, he tried to enlist Jeffrey Epstein in a NIMBY campaign to block a museum from expanding near them. So that was one reason that they reached out. They got into a business partnership acquiring a tech company between 2012 and 2014. Yeah. He was in the room with this disgusting person a lot after 2005, a lot. And, you know, maybe he thinks it makes it better that he brought his children to the island. Not really so for me. It kind of makes it worse for me.
No, no. Also, I love that he needed to. He was like, and the nanny, just to be clear. Because I'm like, this poor nanny didn't ask for any of this.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:13–2:39
2
What recent revelations have emerged about Howard Lutnick and Jeffrey Epstein?
2:39–2:48
3
What was Howard Lutnick's testimony regarding his relationship with Epstein?
2:48–7:41
4
How did Howard Lutnick's actions reflect on his character and past statements?
7:41–16:14
5
What implications do the redacted names in the Epstein files have?
16:14–53:11
Speakers
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