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The Bulwark Podcast

Michael Weiss: Trump’s Fee-Fees Are Hurt

20 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent Supreme Court ruling affects Trump's tariffs?

13.261 - 34.291 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bulldog Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to be with you from Minneapolis this morning. We are going to get to our guest here in a minute, but I just wanted to talk to you a bit about our last couple of days. We had two amazing live shows. We had a bunch of special guests, Governor Tim Walz, Tina Smith. You heard her yesterday.

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Minnesota Angry Man came out on the Thursday night show. And Sam interviewed Superintendent Zena Stenvik. And that one was gutting, hearing what these goons have been doing at schools around Minnesota. We're going to be releasing that and the Next Level podcast that we did, a big supersized Next Level with Sam Stein last night. Did some audience Q&A. You're going to be able to see all that.

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Just make sure you're subscribed to us over on YouTube. Subscribe to the Borg Takes feed, the Next Level feed.

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Chapter 2: How is the war in Ukraine evolving on its fourth anniversary?

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Over the weekend, we'll be rolling out elements from the shows. It was... Truly inspiring to be there with everybody from Minnesota and appreciated so much just their energy and enthusiasm and love and their stories of hearing what they've been doing in their communities, volunteering.

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Before the shows, we had the opportunity to go out to the Whipple building and talk to protesters out there and then to the pretty and good memorials. And my biggest takeaway about kind of what's happening on the ground here that's different than maybe what I expected, talking to folks at the Whipple building where people

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which is basically ICE headquarters building up here, is that there's still a ton of activity, like a ton of cars coming in and out of there, 10 Bison CBP agents, a lot of people getting released who had been detained either inside Whipple or at Whipple and then sent to Texas and then brought back. And like one protester, I thought this was a relevant anecdote.

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She lived about 40 minutes away in Wisconsin in kind of a whatever ex-urban-ish community that's more spread out, more sparse. And so they had, you know, 10 ICBP agents in her community in the last week. And we're hearing that from a lot of people up here that, you know, maybe, you

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What Homan is doing and what the strategy is, is to move some of these agents outside of, you know, the areas where, you know, there's organized resistance already in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and instead push it out into areas that are less dense where... Maybe there's less groups already together of constitutional watchers. And so that's something I think we should keep monitoring.

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They have funding for all these guys.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Trump's potential military actions in Iran?

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They're not just going to sit around eating donuts, put their thumb up their ass. All right, they're going to be out there doing something. And signs now are pointing to these agents using kind of different tactics, maybe not quite as aggressive tactics against the protesters, but different types of tactics to go abduct immigrants and that they're doing it more outside of the main cities.

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So we'll keep monitoring that. Uh, I thought that was a somewhat dispiriting update, but you know, it was on the other hand, like pretty inspiring to see these people out there. The woman I was talking to from Wisconsin's like, I'm out here every day, three hours driving in 45 minutes. It's cold as balls. Uh, let me tell you, my feet were freezing. You know, I didn't really pack for the weather.

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I forgot my coat. Luckily I got a $9 one, uh, thanks to JVL at the department store. But, um, It's amazing what folks are out there doing. We went then to the Pretty Memorial and the Good and Pretty Memorial.

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Chapter 4: How does the Board of Peace plan to address conflicts in the Middle East?

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And it was really tough. I had a tough time with it. And the Pretty one in particular, I think maybe just because I've seen the video so many times, it was just very easy to visualize standing there. My subconscious knew all the signposts. I haven't watched the video so much. And so I was visualizing.

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them executing him in the street, walking through and just getting very mad and emotional and had to walk away for a little bit. When I walked back, I took to this guy, Jeff, who is there, who's been going there most days, help, you know, protect and clean up the memorial and, you know, just be a watcher, be a helper out there. And he said to me that he,

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He was doing it in the spirit of what Lincoln said in the Gettysburg Address. Because I'm not Bill Kristol, or Sarah. Sarah demonstrated yesterday to me that she has the Gettysburg Address memorized, so shout out to them. But I was like, I don't have it memorized, and I know the first sentence. But I wasn't exactly sure what he was talking about, but we kept chatting.

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I was chatting with a bunch of people there just about their experiences, what they're seeing.

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Chapter 5: What strategies are being discussed regarding immigration and ICE in Minnesota?

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I went back to the hotel room. I pulled it up and I saw the section that he was talking about in the Gettysburg Address. I do want to read it because I think that it kind of summarizes what we were trying to do here in Minnesota. It goes like this. We cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hollow this ground. The brave men living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it.

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Far above our poor power to add or detract. is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. And that unfinished work is what Jeff was talking about.

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There's only so much you can do to memorialize and consecrate the ground where these guys assassinated our fellow citizen for doing nothing, for trying to help someone, for exercising the rights of the First and Second Amendment that are enshrined in our Constitution. We can remember and honor But what it's really our job to do is to continue the unfinished work. And I struggle with that.

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You know, it's just like, we're not actually in the Civil War, right? There are a lot of elements of it.

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Chapter 6: How does Alysa Liu represent the American dream?

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I mean, JVL was talking about how some of the parallels to the Underground Railroad that we see with the people that we were talking to, like Haven Watch, for example, this group that waits outside the Whipple building and then helps people, clothes them, feeds them, and helps find them shelter, get them back to their family after they've been detained.

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It's those types of things is what we're able to do, right? I'm not suiting up to go into battle, but we are in a battle against a authoritarian government that is trying to entrench power and trying to assault people's rights. And if what we can do at the Bulwark is just shine a light on it, draw attention to it, help people not get beaten down completely by it,

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help do so in a way that maybe persuades people or draws people in. You know, I joked last night, I was like, I guess if my role is to make fingering jokes on YouTube, I guess I will do that. I wish I could do more than that. But that is what we got to do here. You know, I think that it would be an affront to the memory of Alex and Renee and the other people.

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If we just kind of turn the page on this thing. And I think that is like the main change in my perspective, having been here is I was very much looking at this through a political perspective where I do think that the resistance, so to speak, one in Minnesota, and I still feel that way from like a political standpoint, but

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The broader battle is still here in Minnesota and it's still most acutely, but it's still everywhere on the country. And, you know, we need to make sure that we are vigilant in that because the national news is going to move on to whatever the next story is. And the battle is still ongoing here.

Chapter 7: What is the significance of Marco Rubio's recent foreign policy actions?

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All right, everybody, that's all I got for you from Minnesota. I want to go now to our guest, one of our faves. He's a reporter at The Insider. He's also on Substack at the Foreign Office. It's Michael Weiss and his birdies. How you doing, Michael? No birdies today, my friend.

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509.926 - 519.298 Michael Weiss

They're all quiet. Not dead, just there's the blankets over them, so they go to sleep, which I wish I could do that with my child, but it doesn't work.

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I wish we could do that with Trump, but unfortunately you can't just put a blanket over him. We've got a bunch to get to. We scheduled this, this is the fourth anniversary of the Russia war in Ukraine, and so we will get to that eventually, but we've got a bunch of news. Just like literally right now as we're taping, we have breaking news out of the Supreme Court. It's a six to three ruling.

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They have...

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Chapter 8: How do Trump's actions impact U.S. relations with NATO and allies?

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said that the Trump emergency tariffs are unconstitutional. The three dissents are Thomas Alito and Kavanaugh. Just a massive blow to him at the Supreme Court, the biggest blow of this second term. Potentially they're doing him a favor on the economic side of things because the tariffs weren't

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weren't doing this economy any good but it'll be interesting to see like how he reacts like his temper tantrum but i also think there's some geopolitical potential positive fallout here as you know his favorite tool for punishing you know foreign prime ministers who are mean to him at a meeting uh now seems to be out of his toolbox

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582.472 - 590.019 Michael Weiss

Yeah, although he was also using the tariff tool to punish enemies or perceived enemies of the United States.

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590.079 - 615.545 Michael Weiss

I mean, one of the things that was interesting about the Graham Blumenthal bill, which is basically dead in Congress to impose secondary sanctions for countries that import Russian oil and gas, petroleum products and so on, a lot of Democrats didn't like it because it was basically tariffs, right? instead of actually just sanctioning institutions and entities in the Russian Federation.

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615.625 - 631.663 Michael Weiss

So it kind of cuts both ways. I mean, for some reason, Trump alighted upon tariffs as his preferred lever for, you know, economically battering friends and foes. And now I guess he can't do it or can't do it as much. I don't know.

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Yeah.

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We'll have much more on this over the weekend and on Monday. I don't know. My initial reaction, I have my good wolf and my bad wolf inside of me. And the bad wolf kind of like... wants to let him fuck everything up? I don't know. I feel like in the first term, there were a lot of bumpers around Donald Trump's worst impulses.

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And we're kind of here right now because people didn't feel the requisite pain from his chaos and his misguided ideology. And I kind of feel like we're doing that again. On the other hand... You know, I mean, there were Americans who didn't do anything wrong who were being punished by this, particularly people in industries.

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You know, I was talking to some small business owners, like, for example, who, you know, the tariffs crushed their business. And so it's nice for them that they're no longer victims of Donald Trump. So I don't know. That's where my fee fees are right now.

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