Marco Rubio was supposed to be one of the only adults in the room, and now he's become a shell of himself executing Trump's unwinding of the US role in the world. Meanwhile, Pam Bondi just can't keep her blubbering sycophancy under wraps. Plus, Mike Waltz's ouster at NSA, our shakedown of Ukraine with a minerals deal, Trump's pettiness is getting lost in the firehose of his revenge, and even the president of El Salvador doubts the criminality of the people ICE is sending to CECOT. Tom Nichols join Tim Miller. show notes Tim's interview with Rep. Chris Van Hollen NYT's recent story on the deportations to El Salvador (gift) The link for tonight's AMA at 8pm ET
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Hello and welcome to the Bullwark Podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. A few quick housekeeping items. The Chicago event with Adam Kinzinger sold out. Sorry, you can stand outside and, I don't know, throw underwear at Kinzinger if you want, but the tickets are no longer available. Nashville is available May 29th. Thebullwark.com slash tickets.
Yesterday, I interviewed Chris Van Hollen, Senator Chris Van Hollen. So make sure you're not missing those bonus interviews and instant reaction hot takes I'm doing on YouTube. We're putting them in the Bulwark Takes podcast feed for you audio folks. So go check that feed out if you haven't.
And lastly, tonight, me, JBL, and Sarah are doing a live AMA, stands for Ask Me Anything, for Bulwark Plus members only on YouTube and Substack. So go grab a beverage. Join us at 8 p.m. Eastern. I'll be pre-gaming an LCD Sound System concert, so I'll have a beverage. And you'll find links for this live AMA on theblog.com or on the YouTube page. See you all tonight. Here's the guest.
You know who he is. Professor Emeritus at the Naval War College. He's a staff writer at the Atlantic. He wrote The Death of Expertise. It's Tom Nichols. What's up, man? Hey, Tim. Good to be back with you. Is it good to be back with me? It's been a little long. It's been a little too long. I need my Tom Nichols. You know, every 27 days or so, you know.
Yeah, it's been about a month. I think we're in the lunar cycle of, you know, hanging together.
Okay, good. Bill Kristol did me the displeasure of listing how many days left we have of this Trump term yesterday. And it was like 1,300 and something. So, you know, we have a lot more podcasts ahead of us. I'm curious what the very long list of topics to get to. But just the biggest picture. 100 days was yesterday. What has alarmed you the most, surprised you, if anything?
I guess it's become fashionable to say that you're completely surprised by the speed with which Trump moved. But I actually look at it from the other side. First, let me be optimistic. I actually think Trump and his people, once again, while they are aggressive and cruel, they're not competent, which is still working to the benefit of the United States and its people. Wow. Okay, fair enough.
Maybe not on the economic side, but we'll get to that. In terms of what he's up to between he and Elon Musk, this is not going so great. With that said, what's really dispirited me has been the kind of passivity
of millions of americans including you know at least some of the institutional democratic party but also a lot of other folks who are kind of you know feeling helpless now i know there have been big protests and people have been marching but i guess i am always stunned when trump does something staggeringly illegal i mean doge let's just doge itself for the past three months there is no such thing as doge they made it up it's not a thing
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