Bank of Canada Holds, Housing Cracks, and AI’s Infrastructure Problem

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Brayden Dennis 0:01
Investing is simple, but don't confuse that with thinking it's easy. A stock is not just a ticker. At the end of the day, you have to remember that it's a business.
Dan Kent 0:12
Just my reminder to people who own cyclicals, don't be surprised when there's a cycle.
Brayden Dennis 0:17
If there's uncertainty in the markets, there's going to be some great opportunities for investors. This has to be one of the biggest quarters I've seen from this company in quite some time.
Braden Dennis 0:32
All right. Welcome back to the Canadian Macro Investor Podcast. Daniel Fauch here, one of two hosts of the Canadian Real Estate Investor Podcast, and Simon Belanger, one of two hosts of the Canadian Investor Podcast. And we get together every Friday, go live on a bunch of platforms, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, X, and just talk about macro, what's happening in the market, how it's going to impact the asset classes that each of us discuss on our shows. So
Brayden Dennis 1:00
what are we talking about today there's a lot of stuff going on a lot of stuff so we heard about the bank of canada a rate decision their monetary policy update which we'll be touching quite a bit on aside from that i did a little bit of research and i'll make the case as to why i don't think the us can raise rates also compare the cme fed watch data to prediction markets completely different It's like they're living in two different worlds. So we'll touch on that too. I think we'll probably talk a little bit about AI. I think last week you mentioned in passing the new models that have been released, some recent ones. There was a Chinese model that was announced as well. I think Moonshot, if I remember correctly.
Brayden Dennis 1:41
Yeah, Kimi. Yeah, Kimi. Yeah, Kimmy, how that could impact U.S. models, markets as a whole, the profitability behind it. I also saw the announcement, I don't know if you saw that, that Termaline is looking to build a new data center in Alberta and using a natural gas-fired power plant to power it. So just building on what was announced five minutes ago. No, no, that's a different one. It just got out this morning, a CBC article. So we can touch on that as well. So anything else? I know like housing, there's some fun stuff going on there too. Bank of Canada, potentially.
Braden Dennis 2:20
Yeah, I mean, Bank of Canada, no hike. And then also I think, you know, the monetary policy report, it obviously was... They observed a lot of interesting stuff. The funny part is a lot of their models mentioned that they had to have oil from 70 to 75 a barrel. And then it skyrocketed the next day. And then they also called out condos, a couple of other things. They downgraded their forecast for housing on GDP next year. So lots of stuff on the go that I think we'll get into when we get into the monetary policy report side of things.
Brayden Dennis 2:54
Okay. Yeah, let's start there. Do you want to start by just essentially the announcement, interest rate announcement, what the Bank of Canada said? Did you have a chance to look at the press conference?
Braden Dennis 3:05
Yeah. So, I mean, I think you and I both said that we expected this outcome, right?
Brayden Dennis 3:11
Yeah, exactly.
Braden Dennis 3:11
I'm not surprised. And you can tell the market doesn't care anymore. The market's not surprised. There's two reasons why I think this might be the case. Because even when I think about the mortgage products that people are using, and I've pulled up this chart before, but I'll pull it up again. The CMHC mortgage industry report. It shows that basically, in the most recent reading, the majority of borrowers, new mortgages that are being issued are actually variable. And then the second most common is your three-year fixed. So you would think that your borrowers or your market is actually variable. should care about what the Bank of Canada is doing. But I would say that the bond market is really a lot more in control of what's happening, I think, in the rate environment now.
Braden Dennis 4:00
Housing side, five-year fixed mortgage versus the variable, you can set that aside. But I just think that the bond market is really doing more work on rates and on setting expectations of the Canadian economy than what the Bank of Canada does.

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