Why Most Retirees Get the 4% Rule Wrong with Mark McGrath, CFP
episodePreviously titled “How to Avoid Big Investing Mistakes and Build a Retirement Plan with Mark McGrath” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 10, 2026
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Investing is simple, but don't confuse that with thinking it's easy. A stock is not just a ticker. At the end of the day you have to remember that it's a business.
Just my reminder to people who own cyclicals. Don't be surprised when there's a cycle.
If there's uncertainty in the markets, there's going to be some great opportunities for investors. This has to be one of the biggest quarters I've seen from this company in quite some time. Welcome to the Canadian Investor Podcast. I'm Simon Berange and I'm back here with the previous guest on the podcast, Mark McGrath. Mark, welcome to the podcast. It's been, I think, a year and a half, maybe two years since you've last been on. So welcome back.
Yeah, yeah, thanks, Simone. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know when the the first episode we recorded was, but yeah, I would yeah, I would think it was probably two years ago. So it's uh yeah, it's nice to meet back. Thanks for having me.
Yeah, so for those are not familiar with you, can you just go over your background a little bit? I know you you changed in terms of where you're working and the type of financial planning yeah you do. So feel free to to mention that as well. And I think since we've talked, you also published a book. So if you want to talk about that, that'd be great too.
Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what can I tell you? So I've been in the industry in the financial planning and investment advice industry since roughly 2010 in some form or another and kind of just worked my way from like investment fund sales into financial planning and and portfolio management. Most recently I was working with PWL Capital, which hopefully many of your listeners are familiar with because they put out a lot of incredible research and content. Yeah. Um really enjoyed my time there.
What is the guest’s background and why did he switch to advice‑only financial planning?
And about a year and a half ago, I wanna say, my wife and I just kinda Started thinking about life and what we want from life and what we've got two young kids and you know, how we want to structure our kind of family and work and careers and stuff. And I decided to step away from all of that. We went traveling for a few months. We went to Spain last summer for most of the summer and traveled around Spain and and a few other parts of Europe. And then I came back and I would get back into it, but I'm just doing what we call advice only planning now. So, you know, traditionally a lot of advice in this country is based on some form of portfolio management, whether it's like commissions products or trailer fees or some kind of AUM or percentage fee on a portfolio.
And that works very well for many people, but I just wanted to get rid of all the licensing and compliance. I dropped most of my designations except for the CFP designation. And now I just do advice only planning. So clients will come to me for a complete financial plan. They pay me just for that planning work. I stick around to help them for a couple of months. But other than that, off they go, right? So there's no product sale or commission or anything like that. I don't manage portfolios anymore. Um, and I find myself working primarily with physicians just because in my career that's where I've spent most of my time, and that's the people I tend to attract, and that's who I work really, really well with.
So the company is called Finance, P H Y N A N C E, and it's really geared towards financial planning. For Canadian physicians.
Yeah, and are you are the only one, the only financial planner there or do you have other people working?
with you. It's just me. My wife is involved as well. My wife's a systems and industrial engineer. So she has like a whole bunch of skills that I just do not have and do not care to acquire. So she's really good with like systems and automations and you know efficiency and that type of stuff. So we've got two young kids who are not in school right now. So she's not working as much as she will, but once they're kind of settled in school and we just moved from Squamish, BC to downtown Vancouver. So it's been a bit of a hectic couple of months for us.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–1:41
2
What is the guest’s background and why did he switch to advice‑only financial planning?
1:41–5:28
3
How does advice‑only planning differ from traditional portfolio management?
5:28–10:25
4
What are the biggest investing mistakes self‑directed investors make?
10:25–15:44
5
Why is over‑reliance on AI tools and market timing risky for investors?
15:44–21:12
6
How should investors think about risk tolerance, capacity, and concentration?
21:12–28:17
7
What are the key considerations for retirement decumulation and the 4% rule?
28:17–32:51
8
How can proportional withdrawals across RRSPs, TFSAs, and non‑registered accounts improve retirement income planning?
32:51–52:09
Speakers
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