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The Charlie Kirk Show

My Appearance on the Jordan Peterson Podcast

Fri, 02 May 2025

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How did a cookie price protest give Charlie his start? Why doesn't the West erect more monuments to heroes like William Wilberforce? Charlie goes through those questions and many more in his recent appearance on the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, and offers his own annotations of the discussion after the fact. Become a member at members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: Who are the speakers featured in the podcast?

0.189 - 18.151 Charlie Kirk

Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Dr. Jordan Peterson had me on his podcast. You guys should check out the Dr. Jordan Peterson podcast. We don't agree on everything, but it's a phenomenal discussion, and I annotate it here on the Charlie Kirk Show. So if you are interested... in this discussion. Listen to it.

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18.271 - 37.959 Charlie Kirk

Text it to your friends. I think you'll love it. It's the biographical journey of Turning Point USA, how we got started, and more. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. And again, check out the Dr. Jordan Peterson podcast for the entire discussion. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go.

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Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

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Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

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Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. Okay, everybody, I recently sat down with my friend and legend, Dr. Jordan Peterson. We discussed a lot.

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We discussed my biography, kind of the origin story of Turning Point USA, and it was a phenomenal honor. And so I'm going to walk you through it, actually, and kind of give you some commentary and some things to go even deeper into some of the stuff we talked about. So we started with Dr. Peterson asking a very provocative and funny question. about insulin resistance.

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It's quite a start to the conversation. Listen.

Chapter 2: How did Charlie Kirk start his political activism with the cookie price protest?

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particularly the social work end of it, but my like real psychologists, let's say, were also stunningly craven in their unwillingness to resist this. The mantra was to parents, well, would you rather have a live trans child or a dead child? Which there was never, Charlie, there was never a shred of evidence for that. It's one of the most evil things that has happened. It is unbelievable.

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The people who promoted that should be imprisoned. I agree. It's Absolutely brutal.

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And it's widespread and still in the fibers of the pediatric community.

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2851.136 - 2869.366 Jordan Peterson

Yeah, that's for sure. It really is. Well, the Supreme Court of the UK may have broken the back of that movement a week ago. Remarkably. That was unbelievable. That was one of the most... Now and then the Brits, God love them, do something quite radical in the right direction. Like the Cass Report, right? You know, well, Brexit was a good example of that. Oh, that's interesting.

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They put through that free speech legislation that the Labour Party tried to rescind that has actually reshaped the universities to some substantial degree. That was in part a consequence of me being disinvited from Cambridge, which had a long-term consequence that the disinvite...

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hadn't really reckoned on because a whole group of professors at Cambridge got together and decided that they were going to change the policies at Cambridge, which they did in a historic vote, and then they changed the policies at the national level. And the repercussions of that haven't stopped yet. So yes, so this terrible demoralization.

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And to just expand on that, the entire education system is hyper-feminine. Young men that tend to be more restless sit down and shut up and read books Jane Austen, which of course Jane Austen's great, but are young men being molded into the future leaders of society? Are they being scolded just for their existence? Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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Chapter 3: What shaped Charlie Kirk's early political views and interest in American history?

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young people to the next generation. I met him in a stairwell at the Republican National Convention. I gave him a stairwell pitch. And to your point, which is exactly right, I kind of presented four or five things really quickly. No one trained it. No one, I just kind of instinctively, I said, well, here's five ideas that I have. He laughed, he chuckled, gave me his business card.

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He said, be in touch. Sent me 10,000 bucks the next week. That was like...

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How did you know that there was such a thing as finding donors? And what do you think it was that set you up to have the gall to assume you could, first of all, to know that that was a thing and then to have the gall to pursue it?

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The second one, I don't know. I don't know where I got the gall to pursue it. I will say Bill Montgomery, being a mentor of mine, was very encouraging.

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Okay, okay.

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So you had someone encouraging you. Yes.

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And you said he saw something in you.

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Yes.

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And he was an entrepreneur.

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