What is Education? What is Truth? What is Beauty? ft. David Goodwin
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What is education?
Well, there's a lot of answers to that, but in our parlance in the classical Christian world, which is the area I'm familiar with, it's the cultivation of wisdom and virtue. Pretty simple set of qualifiers there, but it takes a bit to unpack.
So you helped run or you founded the Association of Classical Christian Schools?
I didn't find it, but I am the president of it, have been for the last decade or so.
So I toured one of your schools in Boise.
Yes, that's the one that I started.
I was very impressed. And it was so different than traditional government-run schools and even private schools that have a industrial model, very German model. Explain to our audience what is the philosophical difference between a classical education and a more industrial type of education.
Well, in a word, it would be the enculturation of children as opposed to informing them, just giving them a lot of facts. So if you look at the industrial education that the progressives created in the early part of the 20th century, it was geared almost exclusively towards vocation. teach kids how to make money and the classical education that had been there for years prior had always done a sufficient job of that but it had been more focused on the enculturation and I think that's a lot of what happened to America when we took away the American culture it started to decay and over the course of about 100 years we find ourselves where we have been the last few.
So talk about how your classes are not set up necessarily in single file rows, that it's much more discussion or dialogue based. And just so everyone understands from one perspective, the industrial model is done by most government schools, most private schools, which is that kids are something to be programmed. Correct. As if you're a carpenter. But you look at your job as more like a gardener.
Correct.
What does that mean?
Well, we're trying to cultivate the tools of knowledge. How do you come to know things? And that's a very different thing.
What do you mean by that?
Well, what I mean by that is... In the old world, it was understood that knowledge isn't so easy to come by. It's easy to get information. We see that all over the place. And then we have people calling misinformation.
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