Chapter 1: How did Eddie's trip to Turkey go?
It's time now for the Chipping Forecast, in association with Peter Millar. Brought to you by Andrew Cotter, Eddie Pepperell, and special guest Ian Carter.
Hello and welcome to the Tripping Forecast once again. We are very late recording the episode this week. It's about 8.30 on Monday night in the UK because we've all had things to do. Busy little bears. Most importantly, the busiest of all the bears, Eddie's been travelling to Turkey and is now settled into his hotel room. How are you, Eddie? How's the hotel? How's the room? How's the journey? Go.
All good. No delays. Hotel's quite nice. Staying on site. Although I'm not at the Regnum Carrier, which is where I was last year. That is a magnificent hotel, but I couldn't get in there this year, so I'm elsewhere. But it was a smooth journey, I have to say.
All right, OK, more details to come in a moment, but we can't keep a regular special guest, Ian Carter, waiting. Ian, where are you?
I'm in Southport in my favorite hotel chain. I've paid the extra for the Wi-Fi, so I hope it's working okay. And you talk about bears there. I'm a broken badger. My golf is just horrendous. And on a day when I've played Royal Birkdale, which is my favorite golf course in England ā
um the highlight of my day came a few moments ago when i realized i'd left my headphones in the car so i went down to get them out of the car and lo and behold i saw two rabbits frolicking away with the prime objective of making more rabbits and um that was that was the highlight of my day a badger what's the highlight of their day the rabbits i think it was i think they had a Hang on a second.
Why is Eddie showing us a video on his phone of rabbits?
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Chapter 2: What recent achievements did Alex Fitzpatrick accomplish?
I videoed two rabbits going at it in our back garden the other day. And so I videoed immediately. And just as I started videoing, one of them, a poor fellow at the back, got kicked off. So it's the frolicking season, clearly. Badge.
Is it? Good. Not much badger frolicking going on at the moment, I'll tell you that much.
wow we've got a lot of details there anyway so um so your trip was okay eddie everything yeah uh nothing to report really i have to say i planned for an 8 30 10 30 my time record and i was literally ready one minute before so it's it's rare things go that smoothly um I'm trying to think if there was one moment de-boarding. I was just finishing up writing a blog and I couldn't go anywhere.
And someone said to me, one row behind, are you going to go, mate? And I looked. Well, I will when I can, but I couldn't. And so that would have really wound you up, I suspect, Andrew. It was a bit rude. I hope it wound you up.
What were you supposed to do? Did he expect you to clamber over people?
I don't know what he expected, but yeah, having not travelled for a month, I was feeling pretty calm. Oh, well, the only delay I did encounter actually came at the very last moment. It was the bellboy. It took 15 minutes to deliver the bags to the room.
Do they still have bellboys? Do they wear those sort of buttons down?
um a little hard yeah he did but uh that so i was ready to go 15 minutes ago but i was just waiting on my bag and my microphone was in the bag so i called down and said i kind of need my bag i felt a little rude but um no there was no no tip because of the delay so i mean i don't know what the wow did he stand there expectantly he didn't i think he knew he was in the like saying no so uh yeah how do you find encounters with bellboys
How do you think I find Encounters of Bell Boys? Unless it's Graham Bell and Martin Bell, fine skiers of the 80s. No, I don't. I insist on, you know, they say, can we take your luggage to the room?
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Chapter 3: What were the highlights of Nelly Korda's Chevron Championship win?
No, I can take my own luggage to the room.
I'm exactly the same.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but the Premier Inn, I don't think you get offered that.
That's funny enough, I didn't know. So Ian, you're in Southport, obviously, because that is pretty much Birkdale. Have you been having a hack round? Not a hack, a fluent hit, a lovely hit.
No, a proper hack. Yes. Well, what always happens every year is that the R&A have their media day at the end of April. where they unveil their course plans and any news that they might have. And we in the media get the opportunity to play the course, have a look at it up close. And my goodness me, it is absolutely magnificent. The changes are incredible. They really are.
The new par 3 15th, really long par 3, can play up to 240 yards each.
is an amazing hole it really is and you know if they put a tough pin on that and um and put it play it its full length on the final day then there's there's scope for a lot of change that could happen on the leaderboard i would suggest um so it's yeah but the whole thing is just magnificent as i said before it's my favorite golf course in in england i just think the way it sets up for the open with all those dunes and
So many of the holes just become natural stadiums in their own right. So I was very excited to be playing there, as I was to play Sunningdale last week.
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Chapter 4: What changes are being made for the return of Lytham as an Open venue?
That was just Eddie. No, Eddie was just magnificent. It was like watching an artist at work. And, you know, people say so much of golf is bomb and gouge these days. Well... Honestly, we're in the presence of a golfing artist and it was just lovely to watch. I wouldn't go that far.
Ian did ask me at one point for some advice on how to best sack coaches because I've sacked so many. So I drafted out a message to Ollie, but I don't know if you've sent it across yet, Ian.
Just from the template you've got, the master text that you've got for all of them, just change the name. Exactly.
So I did actually consult another coach on Sunday to try and sort things out. Change is difficult though, isn't it? That's the thing.
It is.
There is no gain without pain. you're faldo 85 86 i wish i wish because even through his changes he as uh dave cannon the the esteemed photographer said to me when we were playing he said the thing about faldo throughout all his changes was he never lost his tempo Well, he might have lost his temper a few times, but I never had any tempo to lose. So any kind of equivalent is not.
Talking of temper, obviously the London Marathon record has been, well, the two-hour mark has been beaten. So, Andrew, were you there? I was.
Is that the sports story of the year? So a couple of things on that. It is because it's the two-hour mark in the marathon done under race conditions. Obviously, Elliot Kupchoge had done it in Vienna, just running up and down with pacemakers, shielding them from the wind, pacemakers all the way, rolling pacemakers. That was done by Nike as a project, beat two hours.
So for two guys to go under two hours with Sawi and Yomif Kajelcha, both going under two hours, you know, one of them was Sawi by 30 seconds. That's astonishing. But the caveat is, this is shoes, shoes, shoes, shoes, shoes.
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Chapter 5: How will Jim Furyk's return as Ryder Cup captain impact the team?
So we were chatting afterwards off mic and Steve, Cram and Paula, and they know, I know it's far more limited. Paula Radcliffe, sorry. So that's what they think from about... 10 years ago, that's a 203, 204 time. That's how much shoes have moved on. But even in the last year, so Adidas brought out this Adidas, Adizero, Adios, Pro Evo 3 just before the London Marathon.
They wanted to get out for Berlin, which is an even faster marathon course, flatter, habitually the place where world records are broken. But they brought it out just before London. Sawi was wearing it. Yama Kajelcha was wearing it as well. It's 40 grams lighter than the last iteration, which was used, which was incredible in itself.
But it's also just a millimetre short of the 40 millimetre maximum you're allowed in terms of height. So you watch them. I mean, they're running along on little trampolines. And the improvement, there'll be more sub-two hours this year. So that's the thing. You know it's shoes, but then Roger Bannister was running on a cinder track. What would he have run on a synthetic Mondo track?
So there's progress all the time, but it's almost comparable to technology in golf. So times become less relevant. People get very excited about times and records, which mean things, but actually shoes are making a lot of them redundant.
Are we looking at a shoe rollback?
The thing is, I'm not sure you can, but it is. I suppose you could. Well, no, you could. You could, but that horse has bolted now, wearing those shoes, bouncing along really quickly. So those records are there. And records are important in athletics to measure people in progress. And people love to see records broken. Remember in swimming when they had the...
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Justin Rose switching to a new golf club brand?
The suits that were like the skins that suddenly all the records tumbled. So you'd say, well, is this person really a better swimmer than Mark Spitz or whoever it might have been? And it wasn't. It was because the equipment, minimal equipment in swimming was better. So golf doesn't have those measurements because it's people competing against one another, not the clock.
But, um, but driving distance, driving distance, I suppose you could say, yeah, it was still amazing to see, but it's a triumph as much for technology and footwear as it is for, for sort of marathon running. Because if you, you know, if you put Ken and Issa McKellie in those positions.
in those shoes if you put paula radcliffe her run when she was four minutes quicker than anyone else had ever run if you put her in the shoes her world record would still be standing but um yeah there's i mean that sounds an awful lot like me pouring cold water i was about to make that point No, but you can't ignore it. No, it's part of... People say, what's it done to shoes?
But every aspect... I heard this debate on Five Live. The commentary on Five Live was fantastic at the end of the... Ed Harry was doing it on there. He was superb. Really great piece of broadcasting. And he in the moment drew the equivalence to Roger Bannister breaking the four-minute mile. And it was captivating. And I'm not particularly interested in athletics, but it really drew me in.
And the debate sort of went on there. And it made the point that everything has progressed. You know, you just think of...
the phone in your pocket and what you can do with that and the level of communication that you can have there um rather than the brick that you once used to have to carry around if you wanted mobile telephone communication so um i thought it was i mean i've not seen it but i heard it and i thought it was it was just a brilliant sporting moment
It's amazing to watch a marathon, to watch it finish and to watch the clock stop with a one at the start of it, because obviously it's a huge barrier. It is equivalent to a four minute mile in terms of what it means. But I just want to try and explain that how much of it is due to the shoes, how much of it, it's astonishing how much it's changed people.
in the last five years and that's you can take that through from 800 meters up you can take it all the way through 100 meters it doesn't matter so much 400 but from 800 meters it starts to tell and when you get to marathon it's extraordinary um and the the one final thing on it is and sophie rayworth actually the newsreader who's an absolutely committed runner And she got injured.
She's got a book out. Sarah's got a book out. But what that means is if you're running religiously in those shoes, your calf and your Achilles are not getting trained and worked in the way they should. So ideally you should train in flat or older shoes and then perhaps just race in the newer ones.
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Chapter 7: What are the challenges facing the PGA Tour regarding ticket pricing?
But if you run religiously in those shoes that are giving you all the assistance, well then the muscles that you're sparing and saving in terms of energy are not getting developed and working as much. So yeah, good golf podcast this.
Enjoying it.
Well, to take it to a golf side of things, obviously I got the chance to speak to Mark Darbin today, the chief executive of the R&A. In fact, I played golf with him. I nearly took his head off with a shank at one point.
They put you with the boss. My goodness.
Is he standing or your podcast standing? I think it's just standing.
It's just standing.
He's a nice guy. He's a really nice guy. I think he's a really, really strong administrator for the game of golf. And we've talked about this in the past. He came from rugby, came from Northampton Saints. I'm not going to hold that against him. But he brings that that level of perspective. But I found him really played with him last year as well, but found him really interesting company today.
especially the way he shook off nearly having his head taken off by my shank. So, yeah, I think he's a really good administrator. And in my interview with him, we discussed where we're at with the proposed rollback. And he gave the biggest indication yet, I think, that we are destined to see it for all of us. coming into play in 2030 rather than 2028.
It was going to be the pro game would change in 2028, and then we as humble hackers would, so I'm exempting Eddie here at this point, would be 2030. And now I think it's all going to be in 2030, but it is going to happen.
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Chapter 8: What are the reactions to the new code of conduct for major tournaments?
The Open was there, 2012, so we'll talk about that as well. But the golf was kind of captivating as well. I think the Fitzpatrick's really, I mean, captivated me. I was, you know, it was, I think they saved it as a tournament because it's a strange tournament, the Zurich Classic, but... The Fitzpatricks, with a bit of a nervy closing 71, won it.
I mean, it's an immediate promotion for Alex Fitzpatrick. See, I've used the word promotion, I suppose it is, but it's amazing the celebration of him going to the PGA Tour from the DP World Tour, but he's straight there. There's a couple of things I want to get in on this. First of all, the details. So they closed with 71, but they won by a shot.
foursome 65 on friday was brilliant better ball 57 on saturday set them up 1.43 million dollars each um alex with a two-year exemption to the pga tour two and a half years because it starts now through to the end of 2028 um the bunker shot eddie from matt fitzpatrick on the closing hole was uh was quite a way to to set it up
It was. It was a hell of a bunker shot. I don't know how far exactly he had, but it looked about 25, 30 yards and looked as though he played it with a kind of sound wedge, caught it, clipped it perfectly and obviously flew it all the way in and spun it to a foot. It's the kind of shot that only a player can hit in his position of confidence, I would say, at this point.
And that was the thing that I got watching it through the television. The thing that emanated through was his confidence.
confidence experience and almost um expectance that we're going to win this bruv and uh and i'm going to pull you through no matter what and that's exactly what i think he did and to alex's credit he had a brilliant shot into the 17th the par three which looked like quite a tough par three with water left and into wind so i think alex played his fair share as well it's um
you know, it's fair to say throughout the week. And, uh, I was delighted to see, and actually the people that I thought most of immediately afterwards, Russell and Sue, um, because I think like you guys, uh, they're a wonderful family and, and I've spoken to them over the years and it was only at the Dunhill last year.
We were talking for a good 10 minutes at King's Barnes about dogs and golf and, um, just absolutely delighted for the family as a whole and how proud they must be.
Yeah. They're, they're, they're chippers, uh, Russell and Sue. So, um, many congratulations, uh, to them once again. I mean, what a time it is for the Fitzpatrick family, Alex winning in India, and Matt on this extraordinary tear that he's on at the moment, his third title of the year, also runner-up at the Players' Championship, wins back-to-back tournaments.
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