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Chapter 1: What were the highlights of the US Open at Shinnecock Hills?
It's time now for the Chipping Forecast, in association with Peter Millar. Brought to you by Andrew Cotter, Eddie Pepperell, and special guest Ian Carter.
Hello there everyone, welcome to the Chipping Forecast. Now, as we record, Keir Starmer has resigned as Prime Minister. If you're catching up on things, perhaps listening to this in a year's time or so, we've probably gone through another couple of leaders, three or four. As a country now, we are basically Bolivia. We have that kind of leadership permanence.
Honestly, I looked up the record of Bolivia. They just, they keep churning their way through them.
um but here we are a constant in this unstable world bringing you golf and more every week wherever we might be where are we this week actually i'm at home eddie peperl is in italy and yeah and uh and regular special guest ian carter you're at home as well i'm at home as well yeah um but eddie in italy i mean italy always used to go through prime ministers at a real rate of knots didn't they oh they
I mean, well, if you look it up, you look up the countries that have gone through the most leaders. Italy gets a mention. Bolivia absolutely is just setting the pace or used to set the pace.
But if you ask the question of Google or whatever search engine you want, not AI, because again, it's destroying the world, but it will tell you that since Brexit, United Kingdom is infamous for just going through leaders. I don't know what's going on. We just...
It's like we decided we're, I don't know, a first division football club that's just run by a mad owner who just wants to get new owners in all the time. Or a league one one. Look at Eddie. Eddie's waiting to pounce. I was thinking we are as a country a bit like Chelsea in that we've gone downhill since the wealthy Russians left. So...
That was my thought, but I'm not sure that is accurate or makes sense, so we should move on. I can see your bag's still packed. Is that your clubs in your flight bag behind? You've just arrived in Italy. Yeah, I haven't unpacked them since Holland, actually, two weeks. You are joking, aren't you? Of course I'm joking. I'm on the wind-up there.
I knew that would... Yeah, no, no, I've been doing some practice last week, and we flew out this morning and had a fairly long travel day in Turin, very central. And when we arrived, I had to go and park the car in a kind of underground car park, a 10 minute walk from where we're staying, which isn't the most convenient place, I guess, to stay for a tournament week.
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Chapter 2: Why was Wyndham Clark's performance controversial among fans?
He's been more repentant and he's atoned for his sins God knows how many times and yet he's still being asked about it. So I think fundamentally we live in different times. And as I say, the spotlight is such that it's it.
I do agree with that because I think Wyndham Clark, yes, I think it was a terrible thing to do to smash up the lockers at Oakmont and he did pay for the lockers and it went on a bit longer than it should have been.
But I'm just ā where I agree with Eddie on that is that I think it's gone on far longer and far more has been made of it by fans certainly than it should have been because it is constantly ā
uh replayed and whatever no there is more uh there is more focus and spotlight on players now in terms of everything's being filmed and um and i do think he has absolutely paid far too heavy a price for that i think his behavior sometimes has been very poor i'm watching his quizzical and slightly doubtful face i'm wondering what price he's paid apart from the repairs on on on the locker
Well, I'm talking about the price he's paid in terms of he's being booed at the US Open by American fans all in sundry. You're getting fans thrown out for booing him, saying, get in the bunker, you know, get off the green, get whatever it is.
And, you know, I don't think that's a price... Brian Harmon was getting that at Hoylake because he had the temerity to be beating Tommy Fleetwood. Yeah, that's terrible. It's awful. But that's the problem with fans. And, you know, if Wyndham Clark is getting... was getting that kind of abuse because he smashed up lockers, then there's a cause and effect there, isn't there?
Well, I think Brian Harmon's is a reflection of the tribal nature of sport, whereas this certainly isn't. This is a reflection of somebody doing something wrong.
owning up to that but then he's very much a tone for his sins and yet he's still getting lambasted the way he did last week which i i don't think i was stunned by you know and i i mean he's got abuse from from yobbish fans and i think yobbish fans is is another major major issue for for golf going forward and again it's something that that really is to the detriment of the game and
But I think that he deserves all the criticism that he's received for what he did in that clubhouse in Oakmont. Yeah. And you live with the consequences if you do something like that. And if everybody just goes, oh, well, you know, of course you missed the cut. You must have been really upset.
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Chapter 3: What insights were shared about Lottie Woad's near miss on the LPGA Tour?
I think it was his short game was kind of holding him in there anyway in the first two rounds. Alex Fitzpatrick tied 23rd, one shot back. And McElroy, 32nd, 73-73 over the weekend. He just said, I think he actually did say, get me, get out of here. Let's get out of here. Go home, Rory, is what he said to himself, I think. Yeah, he's... I think Rory and Scotty are playing... They're C games.
But the difference between the two at the moment is one finishes fourth and the other finishes 30-something at the US Open. And I don't wish that to sound overly critical of Rory. And that's more a compliment to Scotty Scheffler, frankly. But they're both quite a way off the best golf, I would say. Rory is... It's fascinating.
I watched the US Open highlights from... Well, it's not that fascinating, really. But Congressional was on TV when he won by however many? Eight, I think. And you go back and watch the way he played... And it was unbelievable. His ball striking was the separating factor.
And I think Rory is the most amazing example of somebody who's evolved and transformed in almost every single way imaginable throughout his career, physically, mentally and technically. But unfortunately for Rory, I do think the one transformation that's happened in the negative direction has been the technical side of things.
And to win a tournament by eight, to win a major tournament by eight shots, that's what Scotty's had in the last few years when he's dominating. And I just, I really hope Rory can rediscover some of that. But history tells me anyway that that's going to be a very, very challenging thing to rediscover. And he's having to now win ugly, which he's become very good at doing.
But that doesn't dominate the way Rory McIlroy once did. And I think that's the Rory we all still have in our minds.
I was really impressed with Scheffler on the final round, Tito Green. I mean, he just couldn't buy a putt.
And his putts were actually pretty good, though. They weren't. Yeah, they weren't. But he's still, he's still, I sent you guys a video of him hitting a wedge on the Friday and Saturday. Did you really think that looked so bad? Oh, I texted to another professional and I won't say what he said. He was far more critical of it than I. Honestly, I think his swing is, it's regressed, definitely.
You go back and look at his swing from two, three years ago to where it is now. It's coming over the top with the occasional short iron and he's steepening the shaft. And that's just going to make the game that much more difficult. And I think he hit a lot of poor shots into the wind where it's going to be exposed. I remarkably, I think it's incredible, the level of golf.
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Chapter 4: Should former professionals be allowed to compete in amateur tournaments?
I don't think he played on the DP World Tour. But he is effectively a mid-amateur now. The first mid-amateur to win since Stuart Wilson in 2004. So that was a good story at Hoylake.
it's funny i actually watched the final three holes um and i thought i recognized his face and then i didn't know his story so i must have played a tournament somewhere in my past yeah where where i've come across him and and then when he they sold the story i thought that makes some sense but Yeah, he had a lovely swing. Two lovely players, actually. I've got to say, the guys in the final.
What do we think about professionals regaining their amateur status and then going on to win these kind of events and play them?
Well, I was inspired, actually, and thought there's still hope. So I'm not ruling that out. Come on now. Remind us, what age did you turn pro at? 25. I was 20. I thought you were younger than that, actually. So did you ever do anything in the amateur championship? Not really. No. Not sure I ever even made the match play. It was a tough event. God.
I mean, what do you think, Andrew, on the question that I asked that no one's answered yet?
Well, I just wanted to move on because I didn't have an answer. I didn't have an opinion. So I just tried to skirt away from it. I don't think I think we've had a debate before about whether there should be amateurs or professionals at all. We've had that. Yes.
I mean, I just I what do you think, Ian?
i don't think it's great and i i don't think uh no so you sound as if you're amazingly hot take and you wanted us to i'm just interested in what i mean i know that i know the reason i ask is because i know it is a topic that a lot of people debate and i just wondered if you guys had an opinion on it i don't have what is the process for getting your amateur status back do you know i don't know what the process is
You have to serve a bit of time, but I don't know how much. I shouldn't have brought this up, really.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the new two-shot penalty for throwing clubs?
I feel you're the man for it.
Well, we've clashed a bit in this pod. But no, I just think just go for it.
Just go for it, champ.
Good stuff, Ian. Sorry, I'm not in great form tonight. How many balls would you hit before you tear up on Thursday? I don't think we've ever asked you this. We know you'll do a few holes here and a few holes there. But how much time on the range would you spend and on the putting green in the course of a tournament week, arriving on a Monday and then being at the course on a Tuesday?
Not a lot of time hitting balls. I always spend more time putting and certainly chipping, but definitely putting at a tournament than I do at home. Hitting balls, I probably spend less time at tournaments than I do when I'm at home. So maybe two hours across the week in the lead up to a Thursday.
and then but like I've never been a big ball hitter I like drills you know we saw Wyndham doing it last week with his I mean had a stick in it between his he had a stick through his belt buckle I don't know if you saw that he had a pro sender on and he was hitting balls off a tee with a with like a nine iron so it was the most convoluted setup you could see and but I was working through my mind what is he doing there and it all made some logical sense to me as I could see anyway and it reminded me a bit of myself and things I've done in the past so
It's always trying to do ā I think what I've done in the last week is some technical work at home in an attempt to come away and then work towards some feels for the Thursday. You know, when I spend a lot of time hitting balls, I don't actually work to feels, whereas when I'm at a golf tournament and I play my best golf, it's because ā
there's been some technical improvements that have occurred at home and then I implement a feel somewhere that I then go and play the game, play with. And, um, that's how I try and structure it a little bit in my mind.
And does that then distill when you teared up on Thursday into a swing thought, one swing thought or one feel or how does that work? Yeah.
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