AI AMA – Part 1: OpenAI’s o3, Deliberative Alignment, and AI Surprises of 2024

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What is the opening discussion about AI Podcasting and the new partnership?

Nathan Labenz 0:00
Even with these reasoning models, they are still weird. They are still subject to sort of cached heuristics. They're subject to bad perception. They're subject to just like straight up bad reasoning. And You can expose that in simple toy examples. We hope the underlying reality is such that these things are like pretty manageable because we're not, you know, taking the level of caution that we would need if they're not manageable. in twenty twenty five. We'll probably start to see a lot more of these things like the famous AlphaGo move where it looks like a mistake at first, but it actually turns out to work. Uh or some of these like deceptive scheming behaviors. you know, AI's accomplishing the goals they've been given in strange ways.
Nathan Labenz 0:44
Do what you want to do. Don't spend years of your life on a bet that, you know, that that in some sense implies that the AIs like aren't going to dominate the programming profession in the next few years. Cause it seems plausible enough that they might. Adityan Ilangovin, welcome to the cognitive revolution. Thanks for having me, Nathan. Thank you for being here. I'm excited to do this. So this is the AMA, and you're making your first appearance in front of the camera after a lot of effort over the course of 2024 behind the scenes. So I've mentioned you guys a couple times on the show and a few times on Twitter, but for any who haven't caught those mentions, Adi and his partner Cy are the founders of a company called AI Podcasting.
Nathan Labenz 1:31
AI Podcast.in G is the website. And we've been working together for most of this year to produce the show. It's been a lot of fun. I appreciate all the effort and thanks for coming on today to drive this AMA episode.
Adi Ilangovan 1:44
Thanks
Nathan Labenz 1:45
to you for being
Adi Ilangovan 1:46
our first client and making AI podcasting happen. My pleasure.
Nathan Labenz 1:50
You know, my experience obviously with Turpentine has been great in many respects. And they kind of took all this stuff off my plate at the beginning, sponsorship sales, editing, whatever. And the one thing that I thought I was always like, I wish we were using AI more to actually produce the show, you know, and and create some sort of leverage. So The opportunity to work with folks who had listened a lot and who have a real interest in AI and are interested in kind of creating these processes was exciting. And, you know, that that's where all the clips have come from. If you've seen clips on Twitter and, you know, all the shorts that we're doing on YouTube, definitely still a lot more that we can do, but it has been pretty amazing how much we have been able to do on a pretty small budget, and especially considering we're we're putting out eight episodes a month.
Nathan Labenz 2:35
month. I know I'm keeping you guys pretty busy with the the pace of content.
Adi Ilangovan 2:39
No, I mean I should also mention that thank you for seeing that. Just to rewind a bit, like when we were doing this, we were not sure that we would actually pull off the complete post production for podcasts. But you came in and said that, hey, look, this is our pain point and why don't you kind of apply AI everywhere? And uh yeah, I think we have we have done good, but I think we could do better, as you said. Uh looking forward to what we have in twenty twenty five. Always always opportunities.
Nathan Labenz 3:04
So for now, we've put up these questions, mentioned on a few episodes. Put it out on Twitter, you put it on YouTube. We've got a pretty good response with quite a few questions spanning a lot of different areas. Take it away and try me on all these questions.
Adi Ilangovan 3:19
Questions. Absolutely. I'll try to be the voice of our audience here. So we have lots of questions. So if I did miss some, please feel free to drop them as YouTube comments. We would try to address that there. Nevertheless, we will get started now. Um the way we are going to do this is we have sections, but we thought we would start with something that's been trending in the headlines recently. A user would like to know what do you think or What do you think about OpenAI's new safety plan called Deliberative
Nathan Labenz 3:52
Alignment? Obviously the O three announcement, not yet a release, caught everybody's attention and has had people kind of

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