My Positive Vision for the AI Future, from the Existential Hope Podcast

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What is the overall vision for a positive AI future?

Nathan Labenz 0:01
Hello and welcome back to the cognitive revolution. Today I'm excited to share a crossover episode from the Existential Hope podcast, hosted by Beatrice Erkers, where I recently had the pleasure of appearing as a guest. If you follow this feed for any length of time, you've heard me say that the scarcest resource is a positive vision for the future. What sort of social contract should we be working toward in the AI era? What do we hope the daily life will look like? And what sources of value will continue to resonate in a post scarcity world? These questions, in my view, get far too little attention from the AI community today, myself included. And so Beatrice's invitation was a welcome challenge to spend some time developing and articulating some of my own ideas on the topic.
Nathan Labenz 0:48
As you'll hear, we cover a lot of ground in this conversation, exploring the mundane but transformative deployment of self-driving cars, the potential for AI powered individual tutoring for all students, and My hope that access not just to expertise but also to experiences could be democratized. the promise of radically improved health through AI accelerated science and medicine, and much more. Along the way, we also touch on Eric Drexler's famous comprehensive AI services vision as a possible way to square our desire for superhuman quality services with our need for safety and control. As well as my sense that we should encourage higher expectations for progress across society, and why I think that writing fiction is one of the most powerful ways in which an individual can help shape the future.
Nathan Labenz 1:36
With that in mind, I encourage everyone to check out the Tomorrow's AI and AI Pathways projects that we discuss, and to challenge yourself to help flesh out how these different AI futures might actually unfold in a positive way. And of course, subscribe to the Existential Hope podcast, where true visionaries, including Nobel laureate David Baker, and Adam Marblestone, CEO of Convergent Research, have recently come on to share their own positive visions for the future. For now, I hope you enjoy this exploration of my own partial vision for a positive AI future with Beatrice Erkers from the Existential Hope Podcast.
Beatrice Erkers 2:13
I am very happy today to be joined by Nathan Labence, who uh you run the Kognji of Revolution podcast, and we just uh were talking a bit briefly before starting this recording about just how many episodes it is that you've done. It's so many. So it's uh it's a bit intimidating, I think, to interview such an experienced podcast host. Feel free to uh to direct me if you have any prompts.
Nathan Labenz 2:36
Uh, not at all. Well, thank you. I'm excited to be here. Looking forward to this conversation. And uh, you know, for my part, I'm basically just obsessed with AI and trying to understand it as well as I can. And of course, it's such a horizontal technology, you know, it's touching all aspects of life and society that there's a never ending number of angles to come at it from. So eight episodes a month honestly isn't really enough to g to get after all the angles that uh I would like, but it's probably as many as anybody could reasonably produce. And certainly I don't expect anybody to listen to all of them. But it's been a really fun learning journey for me. I honestly don't consider myself to be very charismatic in all honesty.
Nathan Labenz 3:13
So I I mostly just pinch myself that anybody wants to listen to it at all. But I'm I'm looking forward to this conversation here today with you.
Beatrice Erkers 3:20
Yeah. Well today's angle that we have is gonna be like, you know, the theme of this podcast, Existential Hope. Uh and I know you've said that the scarcest resource is a positive vision for the future. So I think That's what we're gonna try to dig into today. Uh and especially in relation to AI, I think, is is like the most interesting question right now. So I don't know, let's let's start. If you woke up ten, twenty years from now and we had a really good positive future with AI, what what would you see around you?
Nathan Labenz 3:50
It's a hard question. And, you know, I I go I say that all the time.

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