The story behind the World Cup final

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Sam Koslowski 0:00
This episode is brought to you by the team at Anthropic. Ready?
Billi (Billie) FitzSimons 0:04
And good morning. This is the Daily Oz. This is the Daily Oz. This is the Daily Oz. Oh, now it makes sense.
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Sam Koslowski 0:18
Good morning and welcome to The Daily Oz. It's Friday the 17th of July. I'm Sam Kozlowski.
Billi (Billie) FitzSimons 0:23
I'm Billie Fitzsimons.
Sam Koslowski 0:25
No men's team has won back-to-back World Cups since 1962. But on Monday morning, Lionel Messi, 39 years old, in what many expect to be his last ever tournament, tries to become the first. His opponent is actually a teenager he once held in a bathtub. On today's podcast, we're going to unpack how the World Cup final has been nearly 20 years in the making. And I want to introduce you to two of the star players.
Billi (Billie) FitzSimons 0:57
Sam, right before we came into the pod studio, the team was losing its mind over this photo of Messi holding a baby in the bathtub. I can't believe this story. If you're watching on YouTube or Apple, we will put up a photo, but explain to us why this photo is so remarkable.
Sam Koslowski 1:16
Well, firstly, one of the top Google searches attached to this photo is, is this photo AI? And it's not. So let me explain exactly what's happened. If you're on YouTube, you'll see the photo. So in 2007, a 20-year-old Lionel Messi was given a five-month-old baby during a charity calendar shoot at the headquarters of his then team, Barcelona.
Billi (Billie) FitzSimons 1:42
And at that point he was already a football star?
Sam Koslowski 1:45
He was a rock star. A rock star. Love it. He was already being touted as one to watch in terms of somebody who could have a legendary career. He was already playing incredible football. He was playing for Barcelona, one of the biggest teams in the world. He was a rock star.
Billi (Billie) FitzSimons 2:01
Right. And so he was doing this charity calendar shoot.
Sam Koslowski 2:05
Yeah.
Billi (Billie) FitzSimons 2:05
And he was handed a five-month-old baby, a very cute baby.
Sam Koslowski 2:09
A very cute baby. So it was part of a campaign for UNICEF, the Children's Arm of the UN, that was run by a Spanish newspaper. And families could enter a raffle to be photographed with a Barcelona player. And this family had won the raffle. Now, the baby's family didn't choose Messi specifically. They just won the draw and he happens to be the player assigned on that day to be the player to rock up for this photo shoot. Now, according to the photographer, the player, 20-year-old Messi, was so shy and such a young, almost a young boy, that he didn't actually really know how to even hold the baby at first. And now that baby, whose name is Lamin Yamal, is 19 years old. He plays for Spain and he's about to face off against Messi in the World Cup final on Sunday local time and Monday morning here in Australia.
Sam Koslowski 3:05
insane it's incredible how is that possible it's it's just the craziest kind of collision of destinies yeah and Yamal is probably Spain's best player and so you have this incredible story of players you know almost 20 years apart that met they met you know almost 20 years ago and they're going to meet again in a couple of days and do they have any relationship now I think that they know each other from kind of the professional circuit. They've faced off against each other many times. The photo itself first went viral in 2024 when Jamal's father, so you have to remember Jamal was 17 at this point, already playing for Spain. He posted the photo on his Instagram and the caption was, the beginning of two legends.
Sam Koslowski 3:50
And so his father was absolutely right. And so the photo has now resurfaced. And what is crazy over the last couple of days is that the photographer, that photographer who said that Messi was shy, he said he didn't actually realize that the baby in the photo was Jamal until Jamal's father put up that image.
Unknown 4:11
Wow.
Sam Koslowski 4:12
So he had forgotten. I mean, that makes total sense to me that you wouldn't kind of really register the name of the tiny baby that's being used in the charity photo shoot.

How did a photo of Messi holding a baby in 2007 resurface ahead of the World Cup final?

Sam Koslowski 4:21
So it's quite a remarkable piece of history now.
Billi (Billie) FitzSimons 4:24
Have either of the players responded to all of this commentary or the photo going viral again since it was confirmed that they would both be in the final?
Sam Koslowski 4:33
Well, we've got a beautiful response from Yamal. He said he got shown the photo before the semi-final where Spain beat France and he said, I've grown a little bit and I think Leo has as well and I hope to be able to face him in a final.

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