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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Good morning and welcome to The Daily Oz. It's Thursday the 11th of June. I'm Elliot Laurie.
I'm Billie Fitzsimons. Wait, before we get into the podcast, can I say something?
Oh God, yes.
I think I have the best titbit of all time and I would like everyone to make sure that they stick around for the titbit.
Do you want to just jump ahead to the end?
I wanted to and producer Ola told me I couldn't.
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Chapter 2: What does the 'Ditch the Witch' campaign signify in current politics?
So Allen immediately hit out against this, said it was part of a secret and well-funded political campaign.
And do we know who is behind it?
What we do know from Victorian newspaper The Age, it's probably the biggest newspaper in Melbourne, they found out that Melbourne brothel owner Franco Puleo admitted to helping fund it. He said it was roughly around $100,000 that he put towards this campaign. And he said that it's not sexist. He just said that he basically doesn't like Jacinta Allen.
So it was a brothel owner who at least was partly behind it.
Yes. We don't know who else was behind it. What we do know is that the Liberal and the National Party, who's in opposition in Victoria at the moment, they said they had no involvement with it.
And he's saying that it's not sexist.
Yeah.
But if we look at the context of how this phrase has been used against Julia Gillard in particular before... I mean, it was widely considered sexist. That's not really an opinion. It was seen as very misogynistic how it was used against Julia Gillard.
Yeah, I think to understand it, we kind of got to go back to 2010. Neither you or I were of voting age at that time, and probably most of our audience. So they may not have been as clued in to what was going on in politics at that point in time. But they might remember some of the sentiment around Julia Gillard as a Prime Minister. So
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Chapter 3: Who is behind the 'Ditch the Witch' campaign?
People are entitled to disagree with me. That's democracy. But I care that this attacks women. And I care about who's next. If we don't draw a line, the line will keep moving. So very clearly. saying there that we just can't accept this kind of language in politics.
Okay, so we know Jacinta Allen, of course, is against it. Julia Gillard, of course, is against it. What about from other politicians from across the political spectrum? Is it widely being condemned?
Yes, but there is an exception, which I will get to in just a second. The LNP, as I mentioned earlier, they have said they had no involvement in it. The opposition leader in Victoria, she also condemned the campaign, saying that sort of discourse should never be used in politics. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, he weighed in as well.
He basically called it a disgrace and said that young girls will see that depiction of a premier as a witch, just like the denigration that Julia Gillard suffered. And it's just not on. Now, as I mentioned, there is someone in politics who was a bit less sympathetic, and that's One Nation leader Pauline Hanson. She told Ellen to, quote, suck it up, sweetheart.
And she kind of pointed to the fact that she herself had been the victim of very similar attacks over the years. And I think that's actually a really sort of important button in all this. It's not just labor politicians. It is actually women in politics generally that get these really targeted gendered attacks.
So Pauline Hanson is basically saying all of us women in politics have had to deal with this. Yes. And you have to deal with it too.
Yeah. And I would also argue that it's not a uniquely Australian problem. Like, I think about the presidential campaigns in the US with Kamala and Hillary before her, and there was similar language in there. Obviously, all politicians are very openly critiqued. Like, elbow gets called sleazy, elbow-neasy by some outlets and by punters online. But again, that's a more general term.
Like, it's not these very... male specific terms that are being used towards male politicians where with women it is about you know, how they're positioned as mothers or using language like bitch and witch to describe them.
Yeah, I think that's a totally fair point that politicians across the world are being criticised not just on their policies, but of course for personal attributes about them. And that is across both genders. But then there are certain words that are reserved for exclusively women. And that's when it's a conversation like this that is completely warranted, I think.
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Chapter 4: What historical context is important for understanding the slogan's impact?
Do not disappoint us, Billie.
Okay. Producer Ola is coming in on this as well. Hold on. Wait, let me just get it up. Okay. Sorry, I have such a smile on my face because I'm too excited. And I'm nervous that everyone already knows this. Also, by the way, this has got nothing to do with the news. This is just a random fact that I learned like two months ago.
But it's kind of your MO. You love sharing a random fact.
Okay. I love nothing more than a random fact. Okay, you guys are obviously familiar with the song The Monster by Eminem.
Oh, no, I do know this fact, but tell the audience. I'm sorry.
No, I don't know.
Okay, perfect.
I'm so sad. Okay, Ola, you're my girl. So, you know that... Wait, I'm also wondering... Okay, sorry.
I'm also wondering, are you about to sing on the mic?
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