I Know the Secret of Why Trump Truly Fears Putin

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Luke Harding 0:28
Former British intelligence guy, MI6 guy, I spoke to said it's the Manchurian candidate on steroids. I think some kind of compromise is the best working explanation. The FSB KGB are adept at surveillance. They break in and watch everybody. And of course that means the we Trumps of Donald Trump, the tapes of Donald Trump. during his visit, for example, in 2013 for the Mr. Universe Beauty Fashion. And really you just have to ask yourself, what did Trump do there? Whatever happened there or didn't happen there, Trump knows that Putin knows. And I think it's this kind of Trump knowing the Putin knowing gives Putin leverage.
Joanna Coles 1:09
I'm Joanna Coles. This is the Daily Beast podcast. Don't forget to like and smash the subscribe button because we are independent media. This is how you show your support, and it's why we can bring you. Conversations like the one we have this afternoon, which I found fascinating, about Donald Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin, who he's just invited to the G20 summit in December.

Why does Luke Harding believe Trump fears Putin?

Joanna Coles 1:35
It'll be the first time that Putin has attended the summit for seven years, and certainly the first time since he invaded Ukraine. At the center of our conversation. Is this book, Betrayal, which has not been allowed to be published. In the US, and we'll get into why. But the author, Luke Hardin, really gets into this mystifying relationship between Putin and Donald Trump. What does Trump get out of it? What do the Russians get out of it? So no more ado, let's get into it. Luke, welcome. Joanna, great to be with you. Hello. Hello, hello. So you say that the Trump Putin relationship is the biggest mystery in international politics. Where do we begin with that? But what do you th what do you think is at the heart of that mystery?
Luke Harding 2:37
Well, I mean, I think there are several overlapping factors. And I I was um halfway through writing this book last year when, of course, Donald Trump invited Vladimir Putin to Alaska for for a summit in Anchorage. And there's this one image I I I couldn't shake, which which you y y you have to kind of go over. Where where Trump is on Air Force One, he comes down the steps uh looking lethargic and uncharacteristically Nervous, lacking his usual alpha swagger. And he stands at the sort of red carpet tea. And then uh Vladimir Putin, this sort of chilly small figure and suit, um, uh emerges and walks towards him. And then Trump starts. manically applauding.
Joanna Coles 3:20
Like a seal.
Luke Harding 3:21
Like a seal. And you know, be i i in footage which is so kind of cringy that the White House kind of removed it from its sort of social media. Feeds from the summit. And um so there's the the mad applause. Then, of course, they have they have talks about about Ukraine, then there's a press conference afterwards with the whole world's media you know flying in to hear to hear have they got a deal on Ukraine, what's going on? And of course, it's an American president on American soil. So he goes first, right? Except he doesn't. Trump then defers to Putin, who makes a kind of rambling speech about his. History for eight or nine minutes in Russian. Uh, and then that's that's a wrap. There are no questions and off they go.
Luke Harding 4:00
And the thing is, whether you think it's a conspiracy or whether you think that there is something as I as I do in in terms of the Trump-Putin relationship, you need to explain what's going on. And really, I think there is definitely dictator envy, which is a phrase used by Fiona Hill, um, who who worked for Trump in the first um uh Trump. Trump administration. Um, in other words, I think Trump envies Putin's ability to make money, make even more money than he has.

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