
Jon Stewart shares stories of high-security interviews with the former Pakistani President, book recommendations, advice to young people, messages of hope, and whether TV is dying.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What special highlights are shared during the holiday break?
Hey everyone, Desi Lydic here. The Daily Show is on break for the holidays, but in the meantime, we put together some special highlights for you. We'll be back in the new year on January 7th with all new episodes.
What do you think about young people getting all of their information and entertainment from social media? Yeah.
Chapter 2: What are the views on young people getting information from social media?
I see no problem with it. Why would you? It seems great. Is that true? I mean, I don't know because obviously.
Chapter 3: Is television dying?
TV is dying.
Don't, what? No, don't, sir. Well, let me ask you a question. In your mind, seeing as I work in television, Will I die first? Because if that's the case, I don't mind. But don't you still watch TV, but you just watch it on your computer?
On TikTok, on your phone.
Right, but you understand that that's still TV. It's just you're watching it in a different delivery service. It's like heroin is heroin, whether you snort it or shoot it. It's still an opiate for the masses, as is television. You're just getting it in smaller bites. But it's still TV. We make it. You have to look on your face like, this poor boy. if he only knew the business he was in.
Well, I hope we don't die quickly and stay. And you're here, and we're making TV for you tonight. Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm your host, Jon Stewart, captain of this dying medium. Why would you even say that to me? What did a gentleman tell me tonight? He said, oh, I'm so happy to be here. You know your television is dying. I said, I am aware. And in fact, I'm contributing to it.
You're welcome.
Out of all the interviews that you've had in these many years, is there one that stands out as the most profound?
Oh, most profound interview. Well, so I've interviewed people like literal dictators, like people that have killed people like Pervez, I don't know if you remember, Pervez Musharraf was the leader of Pakistan, and this was post 9-11. So, and Al-Qaeda had been threatening him with an assassination.
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Chapter 4: What was Jon Stewart's most profound interview?
Now, I've had great, like Malala Yousafzai and Bishop Desmond Tutu, Jimmy Carter, like people of pure goodness. Like you just, they vibrate on a different plane of kindness and goodness than most people. And you can feel it on them. And then you have dictators. slightly different vibe.
So Pervez Musharraf, it was only memorable because, so he was at the time the president of Pakistan and he was under assassination threat. He'd just written a book and it was his autobiography, I think. And so he came here to the show to promote it. And that day we had snipers on the roof. We had AK-47s in the hallway, guys marching. We had bomb dogs.
We had, I mean, it was a level of security that I had never seen before. And I realized, like, this man is risking his life to tell his story on this show. I should have read the book. That's what I remember thinking. I thought, oh, shit. I feel terrible now. Here's this guy's... He could die, and I'm just gonna be like, so... is Pakistan hot? Like, I didn't know shit.
So the crazy part was, even with all that security layer, in the studio, they put a Kevlar front on the desk. This was no bullshit. Many of you are younger, so you don't remember. After 9-11, we all lost our minds. safety-wise.
So they put a Kevlar front on the Daily Show desk, and I'm in there, and I'm looking at it, and I say, because there are Secret Service agents from both countries, America and Pakistan, in the room. And I go, tell me about this. What's going on? And they said, well, if somebody manages to get through any kind of security issues and tries to assassinate President Musharraf, we will jump
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Chapter 5: What security measures were taken during the interview with Pervez Musharraf?
and push him down below the Kevlar to protect him from the bullets. And I said, you know, funny thing is, I'm also, you know, because, you know, I understand. He'll be there and then I'll be sitting there. What should I do? Without missing a beat, a New York City cop walked by and he goes, you fucking duck. Oh, dear God. These are one of those that are always rough.
It's always like, I was six years old. You would come on. My paw and I. I'm just so curious.
Knowing what you know now, if you went back to... or anything you would have advised us or done differently, like different guests, like somebody that you didn't have or not?
On the MTV program?
Yeah.
You watched that show? Because it was like, I think the guests, the first guest on the MTV show, the premiere episode. Now this is, so I should explain something because there's younger people in the audience. MTV was a cultural force.
uh in like the 70s no in the 80s i guess it started right with uh video killed the radio so are the buggles and then from there it was really cool and then uh i don't know what the happened to it but uh my first guest was howard stern was the first guest and he came on and he said uh you suck the set looks ridiculous you'll be cancelled in six weeks and i just sat there like don't say that uh but
You know, it was such a different kind of show. I think the two guests on that first show, it was Howard Stern, a boy that ate cheese into the shape of states. Who was referred to in all the production documents as Cheese Boy. The crazy part is Cheese Boy is probably like 50 now. Cheese Boy is an ophthalmologist. But we had so much fun. But it was such a different ethos.
And then we went to, I was hired to replace Arsenio, which makes total sense. And so you can imagine how that went. And then that got canceled. And I remember the last two weeks of that show were just chaos. Like, it's good that they took us off the air, because someone was going to die. Marilyn Manson was on the show. He lit a fire during his performance.
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Chapter 6: What lessons did Jon learn from his early MTV experiences?
I was raised feral. So I don't have a ton of advice. Oh, here's one. This is a good one. So I used to host a show on MTV. It was a talk show. And then it got bought by Paramount to replace Arsenio. So I was the natural replacement for Arsenio. Because I think a lot of people are like, hey, the hip African-American guy, let's stick a maybe small Jew in his place. and see what happens.
And so the show was on for like nine months and it got canceled. And we were all very sad. And when your name is on it and they tell you to get out of the building, like it's very hurtful. David Letterman came on the final show. And on the final show, he said to me, don't confuse cancellation with failure. And I thought that was really interesting.
And then in the commercial break, he said, although this is also a failure. He just didn't want me to confuse it. No, you're good.
How old are you?
Oh, you got so many. We're going to ruin this so much. You have no idea what we've got planned. You are walking into Thunderdome. No, honestly, we do this all the time. Every generation, even the greatest generation, I mean, they dropped atomic bombs on people.
We always think that the world is at its worst in the moment that we're in it, but you have to remain optimistic because the images that they present to us are to heighten your fear. That's how they make their, oh, you're gonna love the show tonight, I think. You're going to love this show. But so what are you thinking?
I think a lot of young people are a little bit not happy with the choice of candidates you have. I guess we feel like our vote, our voice doesn't matter.
Oh, it so matters. Yeah. In fact, your voice is. Can I tell you something about advertisers? Do you know that advertisers, they look at different demographics? But the largest demographic that they look at is 18 to 24. That's the one that means everything to them. Use that power, the power of the person. I'm 61. I'm not even listed anymore.
Like literally companies would be like, what about people over 55? And they're like, I think they might be dead. Like don't discount the power that you guys have. You have a tremendous amount. I would think on Instagram. I would tell them on Instagram. This is the fight, man. No generation ever feels empowered or seen or any of those things.
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