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The Daily

An Interview With the President

09 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What was the context of the interview with President Trump?

1.077 - 7.405 Michael Barbaro

The New York Times app has all this stuff that you may not have seen. The way the tabs are at the top with all of the different sections.

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7.626 - 11.05 Zolan Cano-Youngs

I can immediately navigate to something that matches what I'm feeling.

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11.21 - 12.272 Michael Barbaro

I go to games always.

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12.432 - 13.974 Zolan Cano-Youngs

Doing the mini, doing the wordle.

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14.254 - 19.341 Michael Barbaro

I loved how much content it exposed me to. Things that I never would have thought to turn to a news app for.

19.381 - 21.744 David E. Sanger

This app is essential.

22.385 - 29.835 Michael Barbaro

The New York Times app. All of the times, all in one place. Download it now at nytimes.com slash app.

33.578 - 48.937 Unknown

All righty, we are on our way up through the West Wing, past the press secretary's office, past the cabinet room. Sitting under a great portrait of George Washington on his younger days.

49.517 - 52.18 Michael Barbaro

Come on, guys.

Chapter 2: What were the key foreign policy issues discussed during the interview?

487.982 - 490.966 David E. Sanger

interest, particularly in the Western Hemisphere.

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490.986 - 504.563 Donald Trump

If there's a threat, you use the word threat, you certainly would have the right. Any country would have the right to do that. Without the threat, much less so. And frankly, I do believe in the niceties. I get along with a lot of people. I get along with a lot of people.

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505.285 - 533.863 David E. Sanger

For most presidents, military power is the very last resort. After everything else, every form of diplomacy has failed you. So I wanted to get the president focused on the question of what criteria he uses to exercise the most extreme and deadly form of American power, which is the military.

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533.883 - 549.896 David E. Sanger

But also try to figure out how much of a motivation in Venezuela was the fact that it's sitting on the world's largest reserves of oil. You've gone in in part to get a resource, which you just declared today.

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549.916 - 560.889 Donald Trump

No, I got in for numerous reasons. Number one, the drugs are pouring into the country. You know that. Number two, the people are pouring into the country were, except now we have a 100% strong border.

561.55 - 570.561 David E. Sanger

That all this talk about a threat from drugs, from criminals and all that might be secondary to his true motivation here.

570.811 - 591.432 Donald Trump

No, the oil happened to be there. Don't forget the oil will take a while. But we have it set, although we did get, you know, many barrels of oil today, as you probably know. And that's fine. But we didn't do that. We didn't even know about all of the oil that was being stored there.

591.512 - 614.559 David E. Sanger

So supposing you're Xi Jinping and you've watched the events of the past few days. And I wanted him to talk a little bit about the long-term implications. of this, the precedent it sets. You may also be thinking, if you're Xi, that you could use the same logic to decapitate and control Taiwan. Or why couldn't Putin use that argument? Same argument.

614.66 - 624.312 David E. Sanger

It's a threat to grab the rest of Ukraine or go beyond into other former Soviet states. Have you created a precedent that you may come to regret later on?

Chapter 3: How does President Trump justify military interventions?

1967.183 - 1982.501 Donald Trump

Like a comprehensive immigration reform? I would love to do it if it was possible. Is Congress willing to go do that? George Bush tried. If the Democrats would do it, I'd do it. I'd love to have a comprehensive immigration policy, something that really worked. It's about time for the country to have it.

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1982.521 - 1983.282 Tyler Pager

What would that look like?

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1984.063 - 1997.854 Donald Trump

Excuse me? What would a comprehensive immigration policy look like? It's a very ticklish subject, but I believe that there is a plan that can work for everybody.

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1998.756 - 2026.047 Unknown

David, I wonder if you were as surprised as I was in listening to this interview by the president's sudden enthusiasm. for something like comprehensive immigration reform. I'm sure you remember this as well as I do. Comprehensive immigration reform is a word that if a Republican invokes, they are in big, big trouble because it almost always implies

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2026.027 - 2040.103 Unknown

that you're going to create a legal path for those here illegally. That's the comprehensive part of immigration reform. In the past, President Trump has sought to kill any form of comprehensive immigration reform. And suddenly he's saying, I want this.

2040.742 - 2063.948 David E. Sanger

You know, Michael, to hear President Trump come back and discuss this, I was sitting there thinking, how is his own base going to go react to this? Because, yes, the core of it is you do find a pathway for at least some to get to citizenship. And I'm not sure the current Trump base is ready for that.

2064.232 - 2078.996 Katie Rogers

Can we move on to the economy? I would like to ask you about Republican pollsters lately are warning that you and the party is losing ground with young voters, particularly young men who are concerned with job prospects and the rise of AI.

2079.016 - 2080.539 Donald Trump

Could I have the TikTok thing?

2080.559 - 2083.063 Katie Rogers

But what would you say to those young voters, those young men?

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