Drunkenness, Women and Wokeness: A Dramatic Confirmation Hearing for Pete Hegseth
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From The New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is The Daily. On Tuesday, the confirmation process for Donald Trump's cabinet began with his most controversial choice, Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense. Today... my colleague, national security correspondent Eric Schmidt, on the contentious and dramatic hearing and the odds that Hegseth will soon be running the military. It's Wednesday, January 15th. Eric, from the moment that Pete Hegseth was nominated to run the Department of Defense, it, as you well know, created a storm of controversy on both sides of the aisle because of the reports of his personal misconduct, because of his views on issues like whether women should be in the military, and because of his lack of traditional management experience.
Everything about him represented a major deviation from the norm of who the Secretary of Defense is, so much so that it looked like Donald Trump might dump him as his choice, but that hasn't happened. So heading into this confirmation hearing, what for you were the big questions about how this very highly anticipated day would unfold?
Well, I think you said it's just amazing how unconventional Pete Hexeth's nomination is. I mean, when his nomination was announced, we all kind of scratched our heads and went, you mean the Fox News anchor, that guy? Right. And, you know, as it turned out, you know, he did have a record. He had run a couple of veterans groups. And then some of the allegations started seeping out about his misconduct. The Times unearthed a letter from his mother in 2018 saying he treats women terribly. His mom later said that she wrote that letter in anger, but still... Then we learned about an alleged sexual assault in 2017. Right. So these things are starting to pile up. And then we talked to former colleagues of his who talk about allegations of public drunkenness. I mean, any one of these things, you know, would have been enough to sink... a nominee in another time, but not Pete Hegseth. Right. So going into the hearing, I think there were really three major questions about how it would unfold. The first would be, what do the Democrats do?
Do they recognize this is a foregone conclusion and basically meet Pete Hegseth on his own terms, or do they go to war with him? The second, for Republicans... Do they acknowledge any misgivings at all about Pete Hegseth's conduct, his fitness for the job, his experience, anything at all that would appear to give a crack in their support for him? Or do they just fall in line? And then the third question is, how would Pete Hegseth carry himself? Again, remember, this is the firebrand Fox News commentator. He's used to being on television and really being hard-edged in the MAGA world. Or do we see a different version of him where he's kind of buttoned up, the Princeton grad, and ready to play nice with Democrats and maybe soften some of their opposition?
You know, which Pete Hegseth shows up in what form, and how does he present himself in this hearing?
Right, the firebrand or the charmer. Right, or some combination. So given those three big questions going into this hearing, take us into the actual confirmation hearing itself as you tried to figure out which way it was going to go for each of those three constituencies, Republicans, Democrats, and Hegseth himself.
So the hearing starts at 930 on Tuesday morning, and this is the Senate Armed Services Committee. And their job is basically to recommend or not for all their Senate colleagues, you know, how should they vote on this guy? Again, remember, Republicans are in control as of the last election, but there's a very narrow margin and it's still a question of whether the Republicans will hold together. So Hexeth takes his seat in front of the dais, and he looks kind of like you would see him on television, sporting a navy blue suit with a red tie, an American flag pocket square. And his wife and several other women, including Megyn Kelly, are sitting right behind him in support.
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