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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is The Daily. Since the war with Iran began, President Trump has gone from urging Iranians to take cover and protect themselves to threatening to annihilate them. But with the ceasefire set to expire this week, very little has been heard from the Iranian people themselves.
Today, my colleague Claire Tennesketter speaks to Iranians about how they view this war.
It's Tuesday, April 21st.
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Chapter 2: How has President Trump's rhetoric changed regarding Iran?
Days have passed without word from family and friends. The Iranian government had effectively cut off the country from the rest of the world. The number I kept seeing was 99%. 99% of Iranians who normally had access to the internet now didn't. I was trying to reach the remaining 1%.
These would be people with workarounds, like VPNs or enough money to afford satellite communications like Starlink, that could get them online for even just a few minutes. And then, almost a week into the war, my colleagues and I got a few replies. Hello? Some of them only had enough internet to send text messages. But others were able to send short voice memos. I am in my own bedroom.
I can say we've been through a lot lately.
We heard a loud explosion.
I heard some loud bomb noises.
At that time, people were still reeling from the war's initial shocks.
I woke up.
And shortly after that, a huge cloud of smoke drifted into our classroom.
Right now, the Iranian state media is telling the people of Iran that the Ayatollah has been killed.
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Chapter 3: What do Iranians think about the ongoing war?
My father.
Like when he would ride in the car with his dad. He'd listen to Queen or the Bee Gees.
Bee Gees.
It's just fantasy.
And we were watching American movies.
And See himself would watch movies and shows about Westerners.
We could see how they're similar to us. So there wasn't a question that America is our enemy.
One of his favorite things to watch was an anime adaptation of Anne of Green Gables.
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Chapter 4: Why is communication difficult for Iranians during the war?
If he was caught, he could be severely punished. But when that didn't happen, he started to feel lighter.
I felt a sense of relief.
This was his first act of protest. And as the years went by, he realized he wasn't alone. first in conversations with friends and even family. But then later, during one of the last years he was in high school, while he was on his way home from the grocery store, he accidentally came upon a mass protest.
That was the first moment I saw lots of people chanting anti-governmental slogans. That was like the French Revolution era.
When he saw that, he realized many Iranians were keeping secrets like his.
I thought, I'm not alone. And most people think like me or feel like me.
And many wanted change.
Lots of people were against this regime.
So he eventually decided to join them. And for nearly every demonstration in Tehran after that, sees as he protested too.
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Chapter 5: What are the varied reactions of Iranians to the regime's actions?
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My momma got me this notebook and I was just writing it really small because I didn't want anybody to read what I was writing.
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I heard from another Iranian who is going by F to protect her identity.
I don't know why the road is so bad here.
When I first got in touch, F was in her car, on the road in Turkey after fleeing the war.
We thought everybody is going out of the city, but actually no one is going out.
She introduced herself to me in a voice memo.
I'm just jumping quickly to the answers. I hope that it will help you.
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Chapter 6: How do young Iranians express their dissent?
For her concert, she planned to sing traditional Iranian music, not pop or other genres associated with the West. And she would have one man on stage with her, playing the kamansha, a traditional Persian instrument.
also activist kind of musician.
But she would be the sole singer, with a lineup of songs about women.
All the poems and all the music was from women's movement.
She said they sold tickets to about 80 people.
We were ready to be captured.
The night of the show, she was nervous, thinking she might be arrested. But she stepped out on stage and sang.
And really, everything was the way I wanted.
She was able to have her concert, the first time she ever got to sing like that.
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