The Dan Bongino Show
Kristi Noem On The Border, Deportations, The Secret Service and More | Episode 28
Wed, 23 Apr 2025
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Chapter 1: Who is Kristi Noem and what is her role in Homeland Security?
And then what we see is that, for instance, El Salvadoran men and Venezuelan men who are in the United States, they see those images and they're like, I don't want a piece of that, and they're self-deporting?
Is that actually happening? Yes, they absolutely are. And that's the one thing that the president really wanted people to know is that there's consequences now. Before, under Joe Biden, you could break the law, you could perpetuate violence, you could do whatever you wanted to do, and they did nothing. But President Trump said, Christy, we need to communicate what the consequences are.
It's one of the reasons I visited that prison, was to talk to President Bukele, ask him not only— You know how he had fundamentally changed the future of his country, because if you think about what the transformation that has happened in El Salvador since he's been president, it's phenomenal. He's got one of the lowest murder rates in the world.
Chapter 2: What progress has been made on securing the southern border?
Is it true it went from one of the most dangerous countries on the planet to the safest country in the Western Hemisphere?
Yes, it's incredible what he has done. And he's done it through leadership and consequences. And that prison President Trump wanted people to see, to know that it could be a real consequence for those that are members of foreign terrorist organizations. And that these gangs, MS-13 and TDA, are terrorists. They have been conducting terrorist operations in this country and they need to get out.
So the videos that I just referenced, you've been in some of them. You visited that center. You're standing in front of the inmates who are behind you. I love the people. I saw people think they thought it was like Photoshopped or something.
I know they really did. It was kind of interesting, yeah, that they thought that.
But you were really standing there in front of those guys.
And I think people, you know, people have their criticisms, but it makes a big impact and people see it. And they recognize that that's possible for those individuals that are doing what the things that those men in those cells raped children. Yeah, they were child pedophiles. They were murderers. They weren't people that were out there, you know, getting speeding tickets.
These were individuals who made a life of violence. And to have consequences like that is pretty impactful for people to understand the message across this country.
What are they doing in that prison, though? Because behind you, you filmed this video. I don't know. How long was it? Maybe two minutes or something? Yeah, it was pretty short. But it's two minutes. Every one of those guys, not one of them moved. They just stared at the camera. It was almost like they didn't want to misbehave behind you. What was that about?
Well, you know, Seacott is a prison that will hold 40,000 prisoners. There's about 80 prisoners in each cell. I spent a lot of time with the warden and the president talking about it, and they just said nobody will ever leave there. They will live there until they die of natural causes. It is a life sentence that they will spend there, and he wants to build another prison.
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Chapter 3: How is the administration handling MS-13 and other criminal gangs?
You obviously come into this office with a Secret Service that's kind of reeling from a bunch of problems, including the fact that the president of the United States was shot last year on July 13th. Right. What is, in your view, the current state of the Secret Service? Has it improved as you've been in?
And will we get some real accountability as to how these guys got so close to assassinating the president?
Yeah. Yeah. Well, the Secret Service is filled with phenomenal human beings. I mean, there are people that took a pledge to, you know, enforce the law and to go out and to be protectees and investigations and respect this country and love this country. And they took the extra risk to protect the most powerful, the most powerful individuals in the country.
So, you know, we need to appreciate that every day and continue to give them the respect that they deserve. The investigations are still ongoing. We're making sure that we do due diligence.
Yes.
And then also recognizing that President Trump has put a new director in place, Sean Curran, who was his lead detail that brings an agent's perspective to it. You know, you put somebody in an administrative role that has actually been on the front line and done these jobs.
They bring better information to that job on what can we do to equip and to train these individuals to do better the next time. One of the things I'm focused on is communication. What we saw happen in Butler, Pennsylvania, was a breakdown of communication.
It was insane. Local cops couldn't talk to the Secret Service in the midst of that crisis.
And that's something that we at Homeland Security can help direct. You know, I have FEMA. I have TSA, Secret Service. We have the Coast Guard. There can be a plan and a pattern for communication on how we interact with state and local law enforcement officials that can be a uniform process so that that consistency is there, that we don't have what happened in Pennsylvania happen again.
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Chapter 4: What is the plan for mass deportations and self-deportation?
And it tells me that this happens all the time to people. And that they live in communities where this is a danger and it reaffirms why I'm here. My job is to make sure that I do everything every day I can to make our communities safer. And President Trump recognizes that families shouldn't have to live with any kind of violence in their lives.
So you think you were targeted just because you were a woman with a purse and not because you're the DHS secretary? Do you think?
I don't know. And there's an investigation going on. But I think I was a busy grandma with four kids, four grandkids under the age of four. And I was, you know, taking care of them and feeding them food and enjoying my family. Yeah. But certainly had my purse even touching my feet. And that's how vulnerable people can be.
So I think we need to be aware, but also be making sure there's consequences for people like that that make a living off of harming other people.
Amen. All right. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem.
Thank you. What a pleasure. Nice to see you too. Thank you.
There she is, rather. There's the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security. Thank you again to Kristi Noem. A lot going on there. By the way, for those who are wondering, if you're listening to the audio podcast, you can't see our our live chat rumble dot com slash fans.
I was trying to indicate during the interview that the reason you're hearing background noise during all of this is because the White House arranged for a bunch of different hosts and outlets to conduct interviews at the White House. This is a part of the most transparent administration program.
You have to believe at any point in American history, you know, with the with the dawn of the Internet, of independent media, the ability of all these people to break through the legacy media blockade. The White House has embraced new media in a really big way. That includes this show. And so what they've done is they've opened their doors and they said, hey, everyone, come in.
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Chapter 5: What is the current state of the Secret Service and ongoing investigations?
So that 30 day clock that the DHS secretary has given is counting down now. And so I asked her there, so does that mean we're going to see more action in the next month in terms of mass deportations? And I think the suggestion that she gave me in response was pretty clearly, yes, you're going to see a lot going on. So we have that to look forward to. The Secret Service investigation continues.
Yes, she is the DHS secretary. Yes, she oversees Secret Service. But as she pointed out, there's an FBI investigation into this right now. And that means it falls under the leadership of Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, of course, a Secret Service alum himself. They are undertaking that effort to the extent that she's doing anything to handle the present day Secret Service.
She mentioned the communications obligations that they have to make sure it's insane that a local cop can spot a shooter on top of a roof yelling to his radio that there's a gun. and not have Secret Service agents who are at the same event hear him.
A total communications breakdown in an event that demands a lot more answers, including how much malice went into the construction of that day's security at that rally in Butler. And then finally, her purse was stolen at a D.C. restaurant this weekend. How does that happen to the DHS secretary? And that gets right back to the Secret Service question because she has Secret Service protection.
obviously priority one is to protect the person but i would think somewhere near the top of that list would be also prevent her from being robbed interesting to hear her talk about that though she thought it was very professionally done and i'm not convinced she was just targeted because she was a woman with a purse i think somebody had it out for the dhs secretary and now she had her purse stolen and the last thought from that is if she can have her purse stolen the dhs secretary
With all the resources that the federal government has at his disposal. And that was this weekend. It is now Wednesday. It was Tuesday when I spoke to her. She hasn't been able to get that thing back yet. What's the hope for the rest of us if we get something stolen from us? What are the chances we ever see those things again? a worrying sign in our conversation, but I'm very grateful for that.
DHS Secretary Christie, no, I'm coming up. I've got a lot of more great, a lot, a lot of great conversations, including with a guy, Alex Pfeiffer. I've known this guy for many years. He is the principal deputy communications director for the White House.
And he wants to bring to the surface some of the stories that the Trump administration is trying to tell, but the media have been doing a blockade on them. We'll talk to Alex Pfeiffer here in just a moment. Before we get there, I got to thank the sponsors who make this show possible as always. That includes the great people at Beam.
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Chapter 6: What happened with the theft of Kristi Noem’s purse and what does it signify?
So fortunately, my my role in sort of the comm shop, I deal with less of the incoming and more of the outcoming. And from my point of view, it's just like, it's hard to get everything out that we're doing.
I mean, every single day, all these cabinet agencies are making tons of announcements and, you know, flooding the zone, like, you know, everyone likes to use the term flooding the zone, but, and we are. And so it's a fight for me to get the little things that I don't want to get attention. For example, last week, I doubt you even know this or any of your listeners or viewers know this.
We did final approvals for this copper mine in Arizona, Resolution Copper. It's going to provide up to a quarter of the nation's copper needs. I mean, that's like a big deal. Big. And it barely got any attention because there's so much other stuff going on. So, like, my day-to-day fight is... Working to get the good things we're doing attention is sort of my focus on it.
And I have a to-do list to start the day and most days I don't get to check off all of it because there's a lot going on. And then, like you mentioned, things pop up. People say stuff, things happen, and we sort of have to deal with the response to it. One of my roles here is helping lead our great rapid response account.
Yes, I love the rapid response account. It's awesome. But yeah, so for instance, like, here's one of the conversations we've had with the audience and just talking about this last week is this guy in Venezuela, or sorry, who's in El Salvador right now, the MS-13 guy.
You know, there's some people on the right who are like, hey, this story is kind of a distraction from all these other important things that are happening in the Trump administration. Yes, true. It is. In that sense, it's a distraction. But on the other hand, this is a political matter.
I love rubbing the left's face in this because it is so cartoonish that they've gone all in on defending the rights of MS-13 people at the expense of American citizens. So, yeah, go ahead. Keep that story alive because it only redounds to the benefit of the president and the people who voted for him in the first place.
Yeah, no, I if they want to talk about Kimar Obrego Garcia every single day. I hope they do. I should start actually getting on their mailing list, sending them some talking points to keep them in the news. Because today, a friend of mine sent me a tweet from Senator Van Hollen in 2017 during the first Trump administration.
And he was like, you know, Mr. President, you need to focus on deporting MS-13 members, not scholarship winners. It's like, oh. Yeah, okay, Senator Van Alen. We've deported an MS-13 gang member from your state. Where's our applause for that? No. So if they want to talk about this guy, we'll talk about him.
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Chapter 7: How is the White House marking the 100 days of the Trump administration?
Some some Chinese town that phonetically pronounces Louisville.
I'd like to make that in America. If you don't mind, that'd be good. That's that's a great story. The other the other story, of course, we talked about it with Christine Noem today and others is the border story is is better than I expected it would be. It was it's better than I expected it would be.
It's better than anyone could even have imagined. It's better than a fantasy. You know, Stephen Dynan at the Washington Times had this amazing story. Catch and release is down 99.99%. He did the exact, you know, calculation. But we have areas of the border. I mean, one anecdote I always like to bring up is a migrant shelter in San Diego closed because there are no migrants to be in the shelter.
Right. And the Wall Street Journal had this amazing story this weekend about the border essentially being shut.
The president, since he gave his first speech in, I think it was June 2015, coming down the Golden Escalator, to present day, the animating issue, one of the animating issues of the Trump movement, the America First movement, whatever you want to call it, has been securing the border and border security. And we actually accomplished it in 100 days.
Like, I don't think it's, it's not very often that there is a politician who makes lofty campaign promises or campaign ads, et cetera, and can actually do it in 100 days. Most don't even get it done in four years. Right. Or eight years. But 100 days I think is pretty impressive, and I'd like to keep bragging about it.
That's cool. So on the immigration story, I asked Secretary Noem about mass deportations because one of the things we hear a lot is, okay, good. I'm glad you're getting rid of criminal illegals like the people who go beyond. I mean they're already – again, to be really clear, if you're here illegally, you've committed a crime.
But when people say criminal illegals, what they're saying is violent criminals who are also illegal aliens. But there's the basic category of just people who are here illegally who have broken our nation's laws. And the question that I get a lot is when are we going to start seeing mass deportations? And the answer that Secretary Noem just gave me was, well, look, I just started a 30 day clock.
The president just did a couple of days ago saying you have a chance right now to register with the government and then to self-deport. And if that doesn't happen, well, consequences will ensue. So it sounds like and maybe you've got some perspective on this. It sounds like. About a month from now, we could see a lot more consequential action on these mass deportations that the president ran on.
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Chapter 8: Who is Alex Pfeiffer and what insights does he provide about the administration?
I went back at his last rally in Grand Rapids. It was on, I think, 2 a.m. of Election Day. The president said, well, I'm going to tariff Canada and Mexico until they stop laying the fentanyl into our country. So, you know, we've either accomplished already what we said we're doing or we're in the progress of doing it.
Yes. I do love that one of the features of the Trump presidency is that he has to force people who hate him to consume his every word. To be like, okay, what did he actually say about this subject? Which is always really funny. Because look, you and I both know, the media went for years. They straight up said, we're not showing his speeches on television anymore.
We refuse to watch them. They go, oh, we're not going to give him oxygen. And it's like, what are you talking about? He's the major party presidential candidate. He has the oxygen. And in fact, CNN and all these outlets were doing a disservice to to their viewers by not showing these rallies.
Yes. And now those same outlets are begging for oxygen at this White House.
Oh, yes, they are. Have you seen the ratings there recently? It's nuts. I mean, the CNN numbers are not good.
No, they're not good. They're not good. There's a way to change that. You know, you can just start telling the truth.
We'll give Vince a show, maybe.
Yeah, give me a show. I don't need a show on CNN. I get this. Hey, thank you very much, Alex Pfeiffer, brother. Always good to see the great Alex Pfeiffer, principal deputy communications director right here at the Trump White House. Yeah. Sometimes these guys have very long titles. Principal Deputy Communications Director. I like that was nice. I know he meant that as a compliment at the end.
Maybe you can do a show on CNN. I thought about it for two seconds. I was like, wait a second. Why would I want to drop my ratings, CNN? I think we're fine. I think we're fine with this great program. And I appreciate you for always being here. Alex Pfeiffer, isn't he great? I'd like to hear more from him in public. He's good, but he's chipping away behind the scenes.
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