The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
GOOD FOLLOW - New York And Phoenix Head Into Game 2, Natisha Heideman Reveals A New Look, Paige Wins ROTY & More
16 Sep 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hey, what's up, everyone? Welcome to Good Follow Show presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Goldombore, and I am here with five-time WNBA All-Star Angel McCautry. What's up, Angel?
What's up? What's up? How you doing, Ross?
Girl, girl, I am doing a million things at once. So my big, beautiful Brooklyn, New York City summer is coming to an end. And I officially kind of make the move back to L.A. and I move out of my space tomorrow morning. Ask me if I've packed or done anything towards that.
Wow, Ross, you have a lot.
Yeah, I haven't done anything towards it. And so I'm going to spend today cleaning, packing up, trying to make this move. How are you doing, Angel? You good?
We're good over here. We didn't came to Atlanta. So just seeing the fam. My mom's birthday is today. She's also Virgo. So doing some fun things today.
Happy birthday to your mother. Thank you so much. How beautiful that you two are so close in birthdays. When you were born, you were kind of like a slightly late birthday present.
Slightly early. Slightly early birthday present. And we're kind of like the same person. Very goofy. People don't know we're very goofy. So we're always in our heads. But Let's do this. Let's get started.
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Chapter 2: How will the New York Liberty adjust to Breanna Stewart's potential injury?
You know, just to round out the convo on the Liberty, you know, I think another X factor could be Emma Mieseman. You know, activate your not-so-secret weapon. She found a lot of success being isolated. Liberty played five out. And so, like, if they're out... And then throw her in there to play one on one to post. Also, you could bring her out higher, give her the ball and let her facilitate.
She's so cerebral, can make plays for others, you know, fake a handoff, turn around and pass it or just take a jumper. But I also think if Stewie is out asserting herself as a rebounder, And everyone, guards, everyone get in there and rebound.
That's going to be key because a possessions battle is always important for the Liberty who turned the ball over, Angel, 20 times and gave 15 points off of those turnovers. But Angel, before we go to the next game, I just want to ask you this. Look, in game one, none of the Mercury's big three played amazing, right? In the sense that, like, AT had a slow first half, Alyssa Thomas.
Kalia Copper started strong, but she had foul trouble that disrupted her. And Satu Sabali, uncharacteristically, I mean, she shot very poorly. Two for 17, one for 10 from three, took 10 threes, only four free throws. Like, How does their, these are finals MVPs, players who have played in WNBA finals, players who have played in the Olympics.
How does experience and how can they turn this around for themselves?
They have to turn it around. This is where I would depend more on Dewana Bonner. She had 12 points, five rebounds the last game, but she's the, she's to me, the real X factor who has the most experience out of anyone who has the most champs. She has championship rings. She's the one that has to rile this team up, get inside to space that listen, Whatever it is, let's go.
I know players are tired during this time, but we don't have time to make excuses. Figure out, you got to figure it out. The tiredness can't be, you can't let it control you. Tatu with eight points, eight rebounds. Yeah, that's a good game for someone else, but not for you, Tatu, because we hold you to a higher standard. Tatu, you are the X factor.
If you want to win this next game, you got to score points, baby. It's just as simple as that. Find a way to win. Will your team to win and score. Find the way to score.
I've, uh, close with Satu when I talk with her. I know she's very much relished the opportunity for this new chapter in Phoenix. And I know that this is the culmination of everything, this playoff run with them, of everything she was hoping for in coming here. And so, you know, I expect that she's going to turn in a better game.
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Chapter 3: What impact does Natasha Cloud have on the Liberty's playoff performance?
And it's tough. Congrats to the Valkyries. It was the franchise's first ever playoff game. And in the first quarter, they came out red hot. They actually outscored the Lynx 28 to 21 in that first quarter. Of course, the Lynx then turned it on from there. Absolutely turned up their defense. And the Valkyries never scored over 18 points in any quarter after that.
And they ended up losing by almost 30, 101-72. All right. It was what it was. Now the Valkyries are headed back to the Bay with the chance to tie it up. And first of all, shout out with their newly crowned most improved player of the year, Veronica Burton. I do think that Tisha Heideman has been an X factor for the length.
She is the X factor. I don't know. Once again, The pink hair. I don't know. Everybody's finding their swag. That thing that gives them their swag. 18 points, three rebounds off the bench. That is the most important thing for a championship team to have those bench points. And she's shown that being aggressive. I mean, to me, that's the mark of a championship team.
And as far as the Valkyries, I mean, having, you know, the six, the most improved player and Veronica Burton. I mean, for me to them, You've done what you needed to do this season. No matter what happens with the Lynx, I'm so proud of the Valkyries. And you're going to take this experience and you guys are going to be a more dangerous team with years to come.
Absolutely. So take what you can from this. First of all, come out and compete. If there's one thing about the Valkyries, they're a tough squad. And You know, another thing that they can lean on to is their crowd. Now, the game is actually going to be at the SAP. I think it won't be at Chase Center, but it but it'll still be in the Bay or it'll be in San Jose, something like that. Yeah.
Angel, you've been displaced before in playoffs. My feeling is this. I know the fans of the Bay Area are still going to make whatever arena they're in super loud and crunk. It won't be exactly, you know, Valhalla, but you think that crowd could be an X factor for them?
From my experience, we were when I was in Atlanta, we were going to the finals every year and we got kicked out for Disney on Ice. We love the kids, but Disney on Ice. I mean, so it did throw us off a little bit. We lost a lot of fan base. The gym was smaller. It was out in Gwinnett, not in the city. So we had those issues.
But if it's still in San Fran, in the heart of the city, and the fans are still going to be loud as they were in the Chase Center, they should be fine.
Look, they got to lean in on that crowd. Like if there's any team in the WNBA where I say the crowd was really like a sixth woman or an X factor, it absolutely fed the success of the Valkyries. So crowd bring it. And, you know, I think for the Valkyries to stay close in this game, you've got to take better care of the ball. They had 16 turnovers. And I think you've got to keep an eye on threes.
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