Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. This happened Friday early afternoon before, or after, excuse me, we had all left for the week. Tiger Woods got involved in another car accident and has a DUI. And I'm having a hard time getting my head around the fact that one of the most recognizable athletes in the history of America...
shows the symptoms of being an addict, shows the symptoms of having to self-medicate on pain stuff. And I was asking you guys, I remember this conversation the other day because I know that most people who have money problems think that money solves all the problems and if you didn't have money problems you would then be okay so a lot of times rich people don't get your compassion
or your empathy on things. So when I said to you guys, how many back surgeries has he now had, Jeremy? Is it nine? When I said to you guys, hey man, like him still trying to play golf with all of that torque and still having all of these surgeries suggests that none of the other surgeries are working. So he's constantly waking up in pain. And if I asked him, hey,
How much of your money here could I get rid of if I promise to get rid of that pain, I'm guessing he would give up a lot of his money not to wake up over every morning in some kind of pain. Our pharmaceutical problem in the United States and the world is a giant one. You mix pain medicine with alcohol, it'll make the pain go away.
Chapter 2: What happened to Tiger Woods and how does it relate to addiction?
And I know a lot of people, everyone is saying, why don't you just get a driver? A driver doesn't make the pain go away, and yes, of course, he should get a driver, but I am now left with the impression, and tell me if it's an unfair one, to think that if he's getting caught this many times with reckless car accidents, he's probably not getting caught every single time that he's doing it.
So unfortunate that he can't hide any of these or he can't cover any of these up. So when I present to you guys, hey, is this the behavior of an addict? Does does Tiger Woods have a substance problem? Do you guys just land on? Yes, of course. Now, at this point, he does.
I do. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see where he flipped his car? Hold the sack. And what time of day? Yeah. He blew a zero. So like this is I've dealt with it in my life. And it was always a dicey proposition when that person would get behind the wheel and they got into accidents. And they would say that they're in pain, but 10 years after the procedure, you like the drugs, too.
I don't doubt that he wakes up in pain, but I also think that that could be an excuse for someone that also really likes the drugs and he needs to get his life in order.
Oh, but when people are saying, and I get why everyone ends up there, just get a driver. Yes, of course. There's too much damage. I mean, people like their freedom. But yes, of course, get a driver. But if a person can afford a driver in a way that all of us are like, what are you doing? Just get a driver. Do you know how much access that person has to pain medicine?
Do you know how much access that person has? You cannot... You think of addicts rummaging through your parents' belongings in order to sell things out of desperation. This person can have access to every single thing they want every time they leave their cul-de-sac.
I think that's two different conversations. This guy's been hearing for 20 years, get a driver. He very clearly values his privacy so he can go out and do whatever he sees fit. And part of that is what we saw play out, possibly. And TMZ is reporting that he's not getting a driver. I don't know how they would know that, but it's a report that came out.
Kind of the same situation with Patrick Mahomes Sr., right? That every time we see him in the news, it's like he's got another DUI, another DUI. And it's like, at what point do you just tell the guy, hey, you can't leave the house without somebody taking you somewhere. It just doesn't happen.
I understand how that might be frustrating too, right? Like that feeling of a lack of freedom we look at as a luxury. Like I wish I had someone who could drive me around all the time, but I could see in the eyes of an addict in particular, well, you guys don't trust me. Like there's a lot of, there's a lot more, beneath the substance abuse, right?
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Chapter 3: How many surgeries has Tiger Woods undergone and what does it imply?
He has been a pillar of excellence at something for a long time, and I remember how betrayed everyone felt because they believed the Buick commercials and were like, how could he be cheating on his wife? I can't believe that this person is not the regal country club figure and icon and pristine symbol that I've always known. This is a flawless human being. How could he be immoral at his core?
But what do you do with what it is that you're presently seeing where you have, you have three incidents now involving a car, one of them that introduced us to the entire secret of his life, which is a golf club is being used to hit the back window of his car in a domestic confrontation. There is also the body cam video in the middle of the night
of an officer clearly talking to a slurring and not fully functional Tiger Woods. This is a DUI charge, even though you guys are saying it's blowing a zero zero. How does that work exactly? I didn't think there was such a thing as a DUI charge that has that kind of breathalyzer reading.
So that happened actually to Dylan Brooks a few weeks ago in Phoenix. He was pulled over for, quote unquote, driving erratically. He did a breathalyzer. He did the field test and all that stuff. And he's still arrested and booked on a DUI because the officer said there's a scent of marijuana and I have suspicion that based on the way he was driving that he is impaired.
They can arrest you without having a positive kind of any presence of alcohol in your system.
Well, but the alcohol is what I wasn't thinking that this is a DUI alcoholism. I think because of the way that he was slurring in the body cam video that we saw in the middle of the night, I'm always assuming pain medication. And I'm assuming it because I will say it again. What's the number of surgeries, Jeremy? Is it indeed nine? It's seven.
It's seven back surgeries at this point, and the reason he gets a DUI is because he did do the breath test. He refused to do a urine test when asked, and he did tell the officers that he had taken medication for prior injuries. I will ask the group, if I make the addiction...
to pain medication do you find more compassion in your heart because of what the excellence cost him when i say seven surgeries right you're a lot of these are the same surgery they're going back in to deal with pain because he's got back problems it's the reason people thought he wasn't going to catch jack nicholas is because back problems end up harming just about everyone in that sport you know what else harms other people dan like killing somebody with your car that
I know you're an empath, and I don't doubt that he's in pain. He needs to get help before he hurts somebody else. Do what you want to do on your own time. Hire a driver and deal with your issues privately. But when you're getting behind the wheel of a car, you're endangering others.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Tiger Woods' behavior on public perception?
It's not Diego Maradona, obviously, who you said was another boat. I was like, man, he's another ocean. That dude was on another plane.
The point I'm making about, yes, it was a long time ago that Tiger Woods was viewed as pristine. Right. But what is rare is all of a sudden in the 40s, whoever you thought was an icon of professionalism, oh no, that person's showing the behavior of an addict. That looks like junkie status. It's just not a usual path.
Normally with the rock stars, with the Charlie Sheens, whichever it is that succumbs to the temptations, those people have bad boy in them before their 40s.
I'll give you an example, and maybe this is probably not a great example, but it's a little out of my comfort zone, but Mickey Mantle was worshipped Mickey Mantle was an alcoholic. But, like, combination of, like, his status and also the way sports was covered at the time. Well, that's a good point. They kept the secrets. They didn't put it out there.
Yeah, the thing that I said about Tiger Woods is that the rules literally changed on him to catch him with his pants down. We did not cover Michael Jordan that way. If we had covered Michael Jordan that way, following him online, around, we would have found other stuff in his divorce and otherwise that would have taken some of the mythological status.
Yeah, but Tiger Woods is not victim to a new standard. People actually do protect Tiger's privacy, especially in Jupiter. He is protected. He is in this bubble. He is beloved. If Michael Jordan had police reports the way that Tiger Woods does, you could not avoid that type of coverage. Tiger gets in his own way. And it might end up being a good thing because you're going to kill somebody.
This is not sustainable. This is a very dangerous situation. I mean, there are probably plenty of people in sports and otherwise that deal with this very same thing and you do not know about it. Hey, Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody, all together, in unison, knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely, Mike.
Yeah, you've been at many big-time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo. Oh, delicious. It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Mm-hmm. Cuervo, man, it's that high five a random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping.
You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo.
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Chapter 5: How does the conversation about addiction evolve during the episode?
Why are you smiling?
Well, Roy shook his head and Tony shook his head at the self-sabotage. A resource wreck situation. They both noticed this. Justin Timberlake has a body cam video of him being arrested in the Hamptons. Do you guys remember his discomfort about telling the officer, yeah, I'm on world tour? This is going to ruin the tour. This is going to ruin. But he was trying. And the cop was like.
Trying to be subtle but without being subtle. Right, right. Well, yes, that's exactly what was happening. He just said something about the world tour. But then the officer said, what do you mean? And he couldn't. He's like, this is awkward or something. No, he just couldn't explain what a world tour was. He couldn't.
He was trying to figure out the creative way to not say he's Justin Timberlake subtly, but he was under the influence so much that subtlety escaped him, and he made it worse by trying to do it subtly.
I'm going to tell you what, Dan. You want to talk about the charm and the kind of the charisma that these guys have in these moments. In that same video, when he's looking over the report, race, white? That's the 10 out of 10. That's the charm right there, man. So funny. The charm offensive.
You know what? Let's forget this whole thing.
Exactly. We'll drive you home. It's a hell of a Hail Mary. It's like, yo, let me see if I can thread this. Oh my gosh. Imagine having the wherewithal to just pull that one out.
I mean, world tour, not a lot of people can just sort of throw at the officer some form of world tour, but then he couldn't explain what a world tour was until he just says, yeah, I'm Justin Timberlake.
And that didn't help him at all because when the officer has you in his sights there, I do wonder how many times Tiger Woods has gotten away with something like this in his enclave because he's not flipping over the car. The time of day, right?
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Chapter 6: What are the challenges faced by wealthy individuals dealing with addiction?
Yeah, it's going to shorten my life. But today I get to wake up and my back doesn't hurt and I'm not thinking about my back hurting. That would be a temptation for anyone who's in a substantive amount of pain that requires seven surgeries. And I'm not even excusing the behavior. You're not wrong in any way. Of course, he's fortunate that he hasn't harmed someone yet.
No, I mean, in part, his body's in pain because he got into a car accident.
before too like it's not just the back his leg got completely jacked up i i i definitely have sympathy for what he's going through no doubt but there there is a a level of behavior here that definitely deserves being criticized and is dangerous and he is in the position where people are rooting for him he hasn't yet hurt anybody and i hope to god it doesn't get to that point also how does he still have a license
What happened? Let's just start there, right? You can't drive anymore. Not you shouldn't drive anymore. You can no longer drive. I think at this point we can say, regardless of whatever's happening with him and we hope he's all right and all that, you forfeited the right to be able to drive a car at this point.
But who's going to force that? Who's going to tell Tiger Woods, hey, you can't do that anymore? The government? The DMV?
It hasn't happened yet. He's got friends in high places.
I'm just saying at some point. No, but you know when that happens, I don't think Dante Stallworth can drive anymore because he killed somebody. I think he is still being driven around. However many years later on this strip of land over here that... I know that for many years, maybe he can drive now, but for many years he couldn't drive. How many car incidents is this for Tiger? Is it three?
Because the golf club and the back window of the car, that was not a DUI incident.
I think he ran into a tree in all that, which is why the police got involved. The police weren't responding to the club being hit on the back window. He flipped his car. I don't think recently, I don't think that had anything to do with it when he was leaving the shoot. In California, I think he just got in a bad accident.
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Chapter 7: How do societal perceptions of addiction impact individuals like Tiger Woods?
Yeah. And you've got to spend 30 days with convicts and people. Oh, my God, that's awful. And your underwear is pink. I'm like, okay. I don't even understand it. What is that? Can we go back to the sunlight? What was that rule?
How did they put that in place? I'm going to pick out a word right now. That was racist Sheriff Joe Arpaio did whatever it is that he wanted back when America was great again.
Racist Sheriff Joe Arpaio, not creative Sheriff Joe Arpaio. They never call him creative. No. And we'll make him wear pink underwear. We're talking about kiss asses in a boardroom. Those guys are like, yeah, yeah, you tell him, Joe. Like, come on, man. That's the best you can come up with for punishments?
Don Levitard.
How are you, Captain Slappy? Stugatz. Is this Chum Bucket? This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stugatz. I wanted to get to some NBA stuff with Amin being here and not necessarily the Raptors going on a 31-0 run against Orlando. That is, we've been talking a lot about the heat around here, but Toronto and Orlando are really in no man's land, even if you look.
at the way Indiana and Dallas have made it to the finals the last couple of years as middling seeds. Toronto has no earthly way of getting past the New York Knicks. There's no circumstance in which they will play the New York Knicks and then defeat the New York Knicks. If they avoid, what do you mean? What?
They match up very poorly with New York Knicks. There's something about you have Quickly and you have R.J. Barrett. Like, if I'm going to write Knicks horror story fan fiction, it's R.J. Barrett and Emmanuel Quigley. Destroy them in the playoffs. And then it's like, oh, my God, it's all happening again.
Jeremy, can you look up for me, please, the number of times consecutively that the Knicks have beaten the Raptors in both countries? No, because I can't remember the last time. I don't believe this group of Raptors has beaten this group of Knicks. Every time I watch those two teams play, the Knicks are winning by double digits. None of the games are even closed.
Dan, I can tell that you don't think that the show is big in Toronto and in Canada because after an incredible historic feat that they accomplished last night, you're going after them for not beating the New York Knicks. They had 31 straight picks. points that the Orlando Magic couldn't score a point. Not a free throw, not a putback, not nothing. Do you know how hard that is?
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