The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: The Little Doubt Monster (feat. Elle Duncan)
29 Jan 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Al Michaels is going to join us here later in the show. Elle Duncan as well. She hosted that Skyscraper live event on Netflix. And I got to think that most humans have the same reaction that I do, except for those daredevil types. I don't know. What is the name of that sport where people, and I don't know how you get good at this, dive off the side of the mountain with wings and a GoPro?
The squirrel suit? And then, yeah, the squirrel suit and then just fly along the side of a mountain. Watching others do that makes me queasy. It seems flippant about life.
I also have no idea how you get good at that. Base jumping? Yeah. Let's try that for the first time. Yeah. You know, like in other sports, it's like, ah, missed that shot. Let's keep working. Yeah. I don't know. It seems like a pretty high-stakes game. Bucket punishment?
It's not like Tom Brady getting better with reps at broadcasting. Hey, KB, can you help me here on the squirrel suit? Like, when does the trainer say, I think you're ready? Feels like you've got to be pretty sure. I don't know that all of you have the same feeling because I haven't talked to you about any of this.
But I assume that most people who are not adrenaline junkies or daredevils, when they see the guy from Free Solo, Alex Hanold, walk. And it's fairly safe for him because he's this good at it. He's not actually fearing death, even though his family fears death. And there is the possibility of death. I also meant to ask Samson, I don't know how you get something like that insured.
It seems impossible to put something like that on live television and have a zero percent chance that you're not going to be televising a live death in a way that we've never seen on television. Well, we'll ask Seth Rollins.
But him climbing that skyscraper, when I see the wind blowing his shirt and I see no ropes and no protection devices, I'm filled with a queasiness that makes me not want to watch it. The daredevil nature of it, I understand that it gets people to tune in, but it's exactly the reason I don't want to tune in. I don't want to feel like that when watching something.
I'm looking forward to talking to Elle because she relayed an anecdote where she says five minutes before they went live on Netflix, the producer handed her a card of what she's to say if he falls and dies.
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Chapter 2: How does Elle Duncan feel about the risks involved in live broadcasting?
But if he hadn't done it, somebody else would have. They wanted to get the most famous guy at this. And so they could get him really cheap for that. And I read him talking about how his wife feels about all it. She doesn't want him to do any of it. Free Solo, the movie, was a great movie because it wasn't just about him climbing a mountain.
It was about her trying to climb the mountain of a relationship with a man who's crazy. And he goes out and he risks his life all the time and she's worried about it all the time and he doesn't worry about it as much because these people who do these things can't measure consequences the way the rest of us do. And so we can't be them. It's not possible to be them.
And so I'm literally asking you, Mike, how much pain would you be willing to endure for the things that you want the most? Physical pain mostly, because I got to think that's the worst pain there is in football. It's worse than the emotional pain.
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Chapter 3: What unique challenges did Elle face during the Skyscraper live event?
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You got me thinking now they should have had just a regular person climb that building. That would have been interesting. That would have been compelling. Yeah. Can you imagine? Imagine if Roy did it. What if it's like the Hunger Games and they have people lined up and they draw a number and you've got to make a climb. Now that's some edge of your seat action.
There's a bag, 500K, at the top of the building.
That's where Seth Rollins could really come in handy with analysis. Because, you know, he's grabbed the briefcase a couple times, Dan. Yeah, I got that.
He's won money in the bank twice.
You remember the one in Santa Clara?
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