The Best of SBS: NBA Coaching Legends

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What insights do Stan Van Gundy and Pat Riley share about their coaching journeys?

Dan Le Batard 0:04
Kings Network.
Dan Le Batard 0:28
Welcome to South Beach Sessions, the smile on my face. You haven't seen it that much, but we've got an old friend in the house. He's old and a friend, and he's also an old friend, and I want to make him comfortable because these things can get intimate and vulnerable, so I have a gift here. I've been thinking for weeks, how am I going to do this? I haven't seen him in a while. I haven't talked to him in person in a while, so... Here you go. I thought for a long time about how to do this correctly. You really thought hard about this.
Stan Van Gundy 0:55
Are you still opening the mornings with one of those? I do. Every morning, yeah. I've tried not to take them too far into the afternoon, but since I'll be up late tonight, I can have one.
Dan Le Batard 1:04
Okay. And you have not yet quenched that habit. You haven't killed that habit, even though you should be drinking water. You're taking care of yourself. You look a lot healthier, as you always do, the moment that you get off of the sidelines.
Stan Van Gundy 1:17
Yeah. I have had people say that there is a lot less stress. But to be honest, with the weight loss, it was all it was all medication. And it was all the having gotten so bad with my blood sugar that I was a type two diabetic. I got put on Munjaro and that's all I've done. I haven't changed my diet a whole lot. I, you know, or anything else. So it's not really that I've done anything.
Dan Le Batard 1:40
I have talked to you a great deal over the years about something that perpetually confounds me, which is you always returning to basketball when it seems to make you a good deal more miserable. when you are a balanced person who loves his family, and yet there's something about the misery and the coaching that is forever calling you. Have you sort of reconciled now that you're approaching government retirement age? even though you're going to keep working for a while, I imagine. Have you reconciled the fact that you've devoted your life to a thing that consumes you and is a forever pursuit, but also had a lot of stuff in it that you didn't like so much?
Stan Van Gundy 2:28
Yeah, I actually really regret that I didn't. allow myself or didn't do what I needed to do to enjoy it more I mean you know because there's a lot about it that's good and that's what draws me back all the time the camaraderie of a team and you know I was just saying to Mike Ryan out here you guys know what that feels like the camaraderie of a team working toward a goal I mean there's nothing there's nothing better than that and the challenge of competition it's addictive and I really wish that I would have enjoyed it more in the moment and made it more enjoyable for the people around me, foremost my family, but even the people within the organizations that I worked in, that I would have made it more enjoyable for everybody around.
Stan Van Gundy 3:23
You're such a good learner, though. Why couldn't you? You know, that's a great question. I mean, maybe I'm not a great learner, but you are.
Dan Le Batard 3:30
You are a great learner.
Stan Van Gundy 3:31
I just think in the moment. In the moment, I don't know, I just I just couldn't enjoy it. And it's funny because I run into people all the time, you know, who I'll meet for the first time and, you know, will be talking to me and say, oh, that must have been so exciting. That must have been so fun. And I'm thinking, damn, it should have been.
Dan Le Batard 3:55
Is it the pressurization of it all? So many people relying on you. The margins for winning can be so small. You have so little control as the coach, even though you guys are control freaks, you have so little control when the ball is out there. You're watching like the rest of us, no matter how much you've prepared. And I don't know how much impact you think you can have on the results, but the coach on the other sideline also thinks he's having. So what you end up doing is dedicating your life to a This is an affliction for most coaches, what you're talking about here.
Stan Van Gundy 4:35
Yeah, what really got me, Dan, is I don't care how good a job you do, and I should have understood this happens, but there will always be things happen in the game where... I would look and go, damn, I didn't have them prepared for that.

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