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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

The Big Suey: Mike Ryan's No Comment (feat. Lucy Rohden)

Tue, 15 Apr 2025

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Is Mike rooting against the Panthers? Why is Chris tasing Jeremy? Has Lucy read the article about Chapel Bill? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Why is Mike Ryan possibly rooting against the Panthers?

Chapter 2: What are the Miami Heat's struggles and statistics this season?

54.925 - 78.94 Stugatz

And I don't think I've said to anyone around here more than I've actually said to Jessica when we're in breaks apologizing for something because I'm like, man, I just don't have my confidence where it needs to be today. And so something that happened in the first hour that perhaps nobody would have noticed but that I couldn't help but notice is that I was just sort of sloppy in a way that I was –

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Forgetting to get to Miami Heat talk in the local hour. I normally have, and I don't know if it's Jeremy that did this to me, just his face. But I actually wanted in the local hour to talk about simply a play in game against Chicago that they will lose late after leading. Because they can't do anything late in games because they have a systemic problem.

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104.929 - 125.036 Stugatz

Barry Jackson did a very good deep dive on the data where they're really bad five feet from the rim. They don't get fouls. And in late in games, they got no chance because they don't have the kind of shot maker you need at the end of games. They're worst in the league at the end of games. And if you're worst in the league at the end of games, you've got no shot in that league.

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And so you're not going to do anything. And so while I would like to think that they can beat Chicago and want to hope in one more game of season, the metrics on this team are damning. And when you read the Terry Rozier stats, I imagine it has to make Mike Ryan a version of crazy to see everything that is happening with the Miami Heat and have Terry Rozier flame out in a way that

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Like, Eric Reid is just baffled. Eric Reid is watching the game. Eric Reid, in the history of this market, there have been no voices, I would say. Not a one. Maybe fellow Ramirez? I don't even know. Not a one.

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that are associated with the team the way that guy is, and associated the way that team would want him to behave as a broadcaster, which is professional, but you're gonna be pretty fiercely protective of the Heat. You're going to be somebody who can somehow be a broadcast professional who is credible, but everyone knows he's really rooting hard for the Heat. He can't even hide it.

190.988 - 194.429 DraftKings Network Announcer

I'm the third biggest homer in the market. Every regional broadcaster.

195.449 - 201.953 Chris Cote

I mean, every regional broadcaster is broadcasting for their team. Go ahead. Do your thing, Jeremy. You want me? I will.

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Even he was confused and sort of angry at Terry Rozier. Oh, my God.

Chapter 3: How does Terry Rozier's performance impact the Miami Heat?

217.032 - 242.413 Chris Cote

wants it more than terry he's trying so hard and nothing is going in the hoop for him i mean it was those types of exasperated calls all year long just what i've i think what he might have said in the last game was i've never seen a good player have as bad of a season for the heat as terry rosier So still couching it with good player because he's been a good player his whole career.

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242.433 - 248.935 Chris Cote

This season was miserable. I wonder what the Heat's metrics would be if you just simply removed Terry Rozier from them.

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249.115 - 254.957 Parakeet Cortez

But Dan is saying that this must drive Mike crazy. Mike feels vindicated. Mike's got his feet up on the table.

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Chapter 4: What does Eric Reid say about Terry Rozier's season?

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What I forgot, this is what I forgot, okay, that Mike is, as a sports fan, the single biggest fan there is on earth of being right. And he nailed this one. He learned that from us, Dan. Not only did he nail this one, though. He nailed this one, and this is what I'm worried about. He's playing both sides on the Panthers and Marchand, where he wants them to win the trophy.

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But if they don't, he's got the person to blame. Yeah, that's Mike. He is ready to pounce on the Panthers with the ego and arrogance of, I was right about Marchand, in a way that makes me think he's now rooting against the Panthers. I'm now looking at his face, and what I see is someone who might actually be rooting against the Panthers to defend their title.

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309.924 - 314.086 Parakeet Cortez

What happens if they win, Mike? What do you... Do you praise the Marshawn?

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314.106 - 337.321 Stugatz

Well, then he wins. It's the perfect position. It's a win-win. It is. Wait a minute. He's figured something out formulaically in the talking about games of how it is to immediately seize on the new traded players so that you can have a scapegoat at the end of it. But I'm trying to figure out how he could have been more right about Rozier. The local broadcaster, like that's for him spitting acid.

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I remember one time, I still laugh with Zaslow about this. I'll text it. to every once in a while. There was a loose ball once and Eric Reid was trying to frame it with the proper enthusiasm during a bad season and with a player that was mediocre. And so there was a pause in his professionalism for just a moment, an uncomfortable moment. Loose ball, Heat player falls down, Heat don't get the ball.

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and Eric Reid gets a little carried away, and he goes, and Samaki Walker is a contributor! Which is like, it's just sort of like, I know you guys know what I know here, and I'm just gonna wrap it in some heat gift wrapping.

389.329 - 394.472 Chris Cote

Well, if you want to talk contributors, Dan, Kyle Anderson has been great the last 15 games.

395.473 - 397.374 Parakeet Cortez

Can't believe Eric Reid did that to slow-mo.

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All right, I'm not going to do the heat talk anymore unless Mike Ryan wants to gloat one time here.

Chapter 5: What is the debate over the Miami Heat's chances in the playoffs?

495.009 - 502.995 Jessica

Can we do some sort of Chicago-Miami wager? Like, if Chicago wins, I get the week off work. If Miami wins, we don't have to hear from Jeremy for the rest of the playoffs.

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503.015 - 505.117 Chris Cote

Well, that doesn't feel very fair. Wow.

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507.139 - 508.16 Parakeet Cortez

Those are some serious stakes.

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508.2 - 509.541 Chris Cote

I'm okay at talking about the other teams.

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509.581 - 512.803 Parakeet Cortez

I'm rooting hard for the Heat. I think I might be, too.

514.266 - 535.872 Stugatz

During the final five minutes of games with a margin of five points or fewer, the NBA's definition of clutch, the Heat was outscored by 61 points. Only Toronto and Utah were worse. Shot 39.9% from the field, fifth worst, and shot a dreadful 25.6% on threes. Only Orlando was worse. No wonder the Heat was 18-24. in those games.

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One of the things that always happens in this sport, and this was interesting to hear Denver's owner Kroenke talk about this, on why he was about to fire Malone, he was about to fire everybody, and then Denver went on an eight-game winning streak.

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During that eight-game winning streak, they beat no winning teams except for Orlando, and so they decided not to fire them then, masked by the schedule, right? It's not...

558.067 - 561.291 Parakeet Cortez

They didn't get any better. You can't fire someone after eight consecutive wins.

Chapter 6: How do Miami Heat's defensive stats influence their playoff potential?

693.532 - 700.137 Parakeet Cortez

It's a great name for a movie villain. I mean... It is. He's solid, especially when directly compared to Terry Rozier.

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Put it on the poll. Does Franz Wagner sound like a movie villain? He does. Ahead of only Spurs rookie, defensive wizard, Stephon Castle. And then here he goes in on, as Heat TV announcer Eric Reid said Sunday, it's difficult to think of a good player who had the sudden in-his-prime regression to the extent Rozier did. And then this is the killer.

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Rozier has one season left on his deal at $26.7 million.

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728.879 - 748.314 Chris Cote

Nothing better than him. Big expiring contract, Dano. Puts you in a good position to move it this offseason, potentially. And the good news for the Heat going into this play-in, Terry Rozier will not likely see the floor unless there are several injuries that happen in the next 24 hours because he is out of the rotation. And I told you, they're shooting 40% from three over their last 13 games.

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748.734 - 761.199 Chris Cote

They're not playing well in these close games. But you know what it takes to win in the playoffs, Dan? What do they say? What do they always say? Defense wins championships, right, Stugatz? Defense wins championships. Well, in their last 15 games, the Heat are fourth in the NBA in defensive rating.

761.699 - 783.664 Chris Cote

Nobody in the NBA this season, in clutch moments, so you talk about the Heat struggling on offense, no one in the NBA has more steals in clutch time than Bam Adebayo. He's the best one-on-one defender in the league. Of the 94 players who have defended at least 100 isolations this season, Adebayo ranks number two in the league.

784.644 - 802.238 Chris Cote

with .69 points per game to ball handlers, and since becoming a starter, he's the very best in isolation defense. They also have one of the best pick-and-roll defenders in the league on their team, and Davion Mitchell. Of the 116 players who have defended at least 500 pick-and-rolls on the ball this season, he ranks number three, allowing .88 points per game.

802.498 - 817.309 Chris Cote

And if you combine Davion Mitchell and Kahlil Ware defending the pick-and-roll, for instance, they've allowed just .68 points. Points per game in the pick and roll, something that the Cleveland Cavaliers do quite often with Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland at the top of the key alongside Evan Mobley.

817.389 - 833.08 Chris Cote

So if you're looking for something that could be a recipe for upsets come the postseason, it's a team that can get hot from three. It's a team that can play defense. It's a team that can defend you one on one. And as a team, they have the fourth best net rating in the last 15 games. They've lost a lot of close games. That luck can change. Dan.

Chapter 7: What is the dynamic between the hosts regarding confidence and hockey playoffs?

923.647 - 932.313 Chris Cote

Oh, I can slow it down if you'd like. You want me to talk again about Kahlil Ware and Davion Mitchell averaging .68 points per possession on the pick and roll defense?

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933.334 - 958.75 Stugatz

No, I would like you to be quiet for a second because all of us, I'm going to say that it feels, Like the show has been tasered. Okay. And so I, I just need everyone to settle down and I, I need to gather myself in a segment. I started this segment by telling you I'm leaking confidence. Hold on, Jeremy, don't raise your hand to talk again.

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958.85 - 960.491 Chris Cote

I was going to defend you in the Pacers.

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960.532 - 984.652 Stugatz

Jeremy, please don't. Jeremy, just let me help you here, okay? Just slightly. I want to help you with me, with the audience, with everybody, okay? You have to understand something that's happened around here. Because we're headed into the hockey playoffs, and this show is about to get obnoxious again, and we're going to alienate audience. Don't love leaking confidence and alienating audience.

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Don't love that. It's not how this show was built. Correct.

990.297 - 992.299 Jeremy

We've had a good run alienating this audience.

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Okay, listen. Yes, we have had a good run.

995.642 - 997.083 Parakeet Cortez

But we've done it with confidence.

Chapter 8: How do the hosts address apologies related to Miami Hurricanes and Heat talk?

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Yes. So 20 years in to this thing. And again, I want to apologize to Jessica. Just in general. Jessica, I'm apologizing to you for heat talk. Again, that you're in the middle of talk about the heat. Again, when there are a million things about the playoffs that are interesting, the heat are not one of them.

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And so to be leaking confidence, to start talking the Miami Heat simply because it's the wheelhouse. It's been the wheelhouse for 20 years. We miss it so much. It's why Mike is so angry. It's why when I read math and tell you, among more than 75 NBA point guards, only eight shot worse within five feet of the basket than Terry Rozier. who shot 55.2%, which is what makes Mike crazy.

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1050.466 - 1059.709 Jeremy

No, no, being right makes me great. Man, I'm buzzing right now. Mike feels great. Dude, this dude was so bad from the jump.

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1059.849 - 1067.411 Parakeet Cortez

He was right on Terry. He hasn't out of the Panthers, don't advance in the playoffs. Mike is in a great spot right now. As the playoffs begin.

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1067.732 - 1068.572 Jessica

He seems like it.

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