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The Dan Patrick Show

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23 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 3.763 Dan Patrick

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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5.228 - 21.811 Jonas Brothers

Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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22.092 - 33.227 Jonas Brothers

Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

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Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

64.43 - 85.079 Renee Stubbs

Winning on clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Rene Stubbs, on the Rene Stubbs Tennis Podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garros. Good to win. She's an outsider to win the French main. And she likes clay.

85.099 - 96.845 Renee Stubbs

Listen, Lena Rybakina is arguably the best player in the world right now and actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

96.865 - 100.693 Dan Patrick

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Chapter 2: What insights does Isiah Thomas share about his past encounters with Rick Mahorn?

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He can post you up. He's got finish around the basket, right hand, left hand. You know, he goes both ways, right and left. He's, you know, he is... I don't know what I would try to take away, and whatever I take away, he's good enough to do something else.

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So he, by far right now, in terms of scoring a basketball and making shots and playmaking, he's at the top of the league right now in my opinion.

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551.293 - 555.137 Isaiah Thomas

He's Isaiah Thomas, the Hall of Famer. Build me your dream team.

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Kareem, Bird, Duncan, Jordan, myself.

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575.985 - 580.652 Isaiah Thomas

Okay. You paused on the two guard there. Were you thinking of Kobe?

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I was thinking of Kobe or LeBron, but it's like I need a little bit more scoring and balance in someone that would play well with Kareem and also myself. And I thought that that's why I paused.

604.004 - 614.845 Isaiah Thomas

I don't know how surprised you are, but Kareem had the most unstoppable shot in basketball history. but nobody's really tried to master that. Why is that?

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Well, the teaching in our game has drastically, in my opinion, gone down. And I think what, you know, Kareem, he had great teachers. And not only did he have great teachers, but they knew how to teach. So when you talk about the greatest shot ever, being coached by Wooden, and then in high school, he had great fundamentals. He had great teaching. We have good coaches in our game now.

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I don't know if we have great teachers in our game. And remember that in order to be a coach back then, you had to have dual degrees. You had to have a master's degree, and then you were called a teacher. And the coaches back then, they referred to themselves as teachers first. And then a coach. Right now, we have a lot of teachers.

Chapter 3: How does Isiah Thomas evaluate Victor Wembanyama's skills and potential?

1213.681 - 1229.054 Isaiah Thomas

That's in my other studio, but I do have a large Bob Knight doll. People think that the doll that I had there was Bob Knight. It's Lou Holtz from when he was at Arkansas. Somebody sent me that, but people thought that was Bob Knight.

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Oh, Coach Knight would be so upset being compared to Lou Holtz.

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1237.942 - 1262.961 Isaiah Thomas

He would be upset being compared to anybody, I think. Oh, he would be so upset. One of these days we have to talk about him because he hated everybody at SportsCenter. And all of a sudden, Jay Billis said, talk to Dan Patrick. He knows basketball. Coach Knight said, have him call me. I call him. I think I'm being punked. And we maintained a friendship until he died.

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1263.923 - 1268.19 Isaiah Thomas

So it was just a complicated guy, as you well know.

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Well, most geniuses are, and he truly was a genius about the sport. And everything that we talk about in sport defensively, And now offensively, you mentioned Steph Curry, that Golden State offense with pass, moving, cutting, playing off the ball, coming off screens. And all of that came out of his mind.

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And the defensive and offensive philosophies that are being implemented still today, all of that came from his head. And so the geniuses are always a little complicated, but that's why we love them.

1310.302 - 1313.074 Isaiah Thomas

Thank you, Isaiah. We appreciate your time. Thank you.

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Isaiah Thomas. auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name is The Fifth Hour? I'll tell you, it's a spin-off of the Ben Maller Show, a cult hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture, if you will, a world where we chat with captains of industry, in media, sports, and more every week, explore some amazing facts about human nature and more.

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Listen to The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 4: What memorable moments does Patrick Ewing recall from his career at Madison Square Garden?

2273.826 - 2299.281 Patrick Ewing

They have more knowledge about all these things than I do. I was so tunnel vision as a player. I was just locked in on trying to be the best I could be as a player. I didn't care who was in the stands as long as it was filled with all of our fans. Before you go, Dan, one thing I love about our fans, I don't care.

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2299.841 - 2315.952 Patrick Ewing

I'm in Boston, and I'm like, oh, my God, I never saw a New York Knicks fan in Boston. Maybe in L.A. or what happened in Philadelphia. I could not believe that. I'm like, we show up and we show out on these road games.

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2317.173 - 2324.564 Isaiah Thomas

Did it ever bother you that Spike Lee was a Knicks fan but he was friends with Michael Jordan during those commercials?

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2326.326 - 2348.045 Patrick Ewing

No. You know, I mean, Michael and I were friends. We got to meet each other in college before, you know, in high school, I should say. We've developed a friendship. We stayed friends, still are friends today. But once we get on that floor, as you saw, it wasn't just about the friendship. We're both trying to kick each other's butts.

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2348.065 - 2364.542 Patrick Ewing

And he lets me know every time I see him or I talk to him that I was not able to beat him. People talk about Larry Bird talking trash. I think he's probably the biggest trash talker that I've ever been around.

2365.72 - 2367.622 Isaiah Thomas

Wait, did Larry talk trash to you?

2368.884 - 2394.293 Patrick Ewing

Did he ever? I mean, if I saw Larry today, he'd still probably talk trash. You know, I think that's how we got to be friends with the Dream Team. You know, he was talking so much trash. You know, he talked trash when we played against each other. But back then, so now we were around each other all the time. And he talks about how, you know, his team always used to kick our butts and

2394.695 - 2418.61 Patrick Ewing

I was more of a power forward than a center. We just got into all these joking things, and we called ourselves the Harry and Larry Show. But Larry was a great competitor, a great teammate, and I got the opportunity to become good friends with him during that time.

2419.251 - 2441.888 Isaiah Thomas

But you know that the Dream Team birthed all these great players from around the world. If you look at the timeline, Patrick, I think you can point right towards the dream team dominating everybody. Next thing you know, you've got a player out of Africa, out of Germany, out of Croatia, a variety of places due to the dream team.

Chapter 5: How does Robert Horry view the current NBA landscape and the performance of the Knicks?

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He's going to cross you up, get to his spot and knock down his shot. And Bronson is so good at using his body. It's almost like when he was in Dallas. He just kept watching Luka and taking tidbits of Luka and adding to the game. Because if you really break down his game, he and Luka do the same things. They hit you with that shoulder. They get that space. They rock you to sleep.

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But the only thing that's different, Bronson plays at a little faster pace than Luka.

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2980.24 - 3003.77 Isaiah Thomas

I was wondering about this because you were a really good defender as well as being a really good shooter. But if you were facing Wemby, you probably – I don't think Elijah Wan would have guarded Wemby. I think that might have been – You know, like Caruso, where you get that guy who, you know, you're underneath him and frustrating him because you're never going to out-big him. Yeah, I have.

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I just think Caruso can't guard him. You know, I think the OKC got confused by Caruso guarding Joker. The Joker doesn't play above the rim, so you need that height. And I think, you know, Dream was a great defender, so we'd have put Dream on him and used his bluer body to push him out. And, you know, you just mentioned how all these guys were so good

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but you weren't really able to showcase your talent. You know, Dream, Defensive Player of the Year, he can move his feet, he can block shots. I'm not saying he's going to block Wimby's shot, but he can contest it.

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I think that is the biggest key because you look at what Hartenstein is doing to Wimby, he's just bodying him, you know, making him tired, you know, keeping his ability to not play above the rim. So that's what you have to do with those guys. So I think Dream could have guarded him. You know, me, I've probably been too skinny.

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Hold on, wait, we are talking about Wimby, so I might have not been too skinny to guard Wimby.

3053.512 - 3084.375 Isaiah Thomas

I'm looking at the Knicks. They're on an all-time heater here. Best point differential through the first 12 games of the postseason. The Knicks have the most point differential, the highest point differential, plus 221. Then it's the Warriors of 17. The Bucs with Lew Alcindor in 71. The 87 Lakers, the 2025 Thunder, the 96 Bulls. Your 01 Lakers are in there as well.

3084.897 - 3110.299 Isaiah Thomas

Everybody won the title who's on this list except for this year's Spurs. because either the Knicks or the Spurs may win the title, but everybody else on this list, they went on to win the title. So that point differential has been a very historical run so far for the Knicks. Why do you think all of a sudden it's clicked here? Because they were down 2-1 to the Hawks. Uh-huh.

Chapter 6: What are the challenges faced by teams after significant playoff losses?

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It's like we were so freaking good, man. You think about Shaq being the most dominant player in the game, Kobe being the most electrifying player in the game. And then you had a band of brothers just, you know, lock you down from Rick B. Shaw, Derek Fisher, myself, you know, Horace Grant. And that's the thing that, you know, People always look at those teams. It's always Shaq and Kobe's team.

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But the rest of us, we knew exactly what we needed to do. We knew exactly how to slap them upside the head and get them in line. And you got to have guys on your team that are not afraid of the big dogs. You think about, you know, B. Shaw, Harper, all of those guys. We'd go to Shaq and Kobe and say, give me the ball. Are you messing up? You know, do your role.

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You know, you do your role and then I'll do mine. You know, You can't be one of those players afraid of the superstars because if you have guys that are smart, they'll listen to you because they know you're the guys that are in the trenches that understand what's really going on.

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3236.163 - 3237.326 Isaiah Thomas

Wait, you could yell at Kobe?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I even yelled at Dream, and that's something you do not do. Why not? Because, you know, Dream was that guy that, you know, a lot of players are afraid of players because they have this mystique about them. Dream and I are really, really good friends. And it happened after my rookie year where we had a nice long conversation, just him, he and I one-on-one.

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And he got to understand me and he saw how smart I was and said, OK, I trust your IQ. I trust what you go do in the court. And I remember one time I yelled at him on the court, I'm like... Box out, Gene! That's why you lost the championship in college! And everybody was like, what? And after that, everybody was like, did you really yell at your mother? If you do it wrong, you do it wrong.

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Like they always say, film don't lie.

3287.951 - 3291.418 Isaiah Thomas

When do you expect the Lakers to find out what LeBron wants to do?

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I think they need to find out soon, especially with the draft coming up, because that's when all the teams are going to start jockeying for positions, trying to figure out what's going on with their roster. I know LeBron, being the businessman that he is, he doesn't want to put the Lakers in a bad position because the Lakers are going to have a lot of money.

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