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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 1 – Dexter Lawrence Trade, NBA MVP Voting

20 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available.

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10.869 - 19.703 Michael Easter

I'm Michael Easter. And on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world.

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Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person.

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27.52 - 43.442 Michael Easter

Listen to 2%, that's T-W-O percent, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Keir Gaines.

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This space is about Black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men...

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carry a suit of armor it signals to the world that you not to be played with and just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to listen to learn the hard way on the iHeartRadio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts

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In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins, but the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.

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You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct?

Chapter 2: What are the implications of the NBA playoffs starting?

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Why don't you try Nutrafol? I can hook you up. I will happily take you up on that. Okay, but you should. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Dylan goes, you know, I was going to get a haircut, but I'm afraid it won't grow back. But if it doesn't, then we got Nutrafol. Or you just fit in with Todd in the back row. You'd be a Nutrafol Nazi. All right, never mind. All right. Okay. What do you have for us?

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Poll question, Dent. Well, obviously, we've got a couple big trades. Who won the Paul George trade, OKC or the Clippers?

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Too soon.

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Or who won the Dexter Lawrence trade, Giants or the Bengals? Okay. I'm going to talk about that coming up in a couple of minutes here after the commercial break. So we'll dive into the Dexter Lawrence trade, the Bengals. Top heavy with contracts with their quarterback and two wide receivers and now an interior defensive lineman. But the draft coming up later on this week, of course.

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And I think the Bengals have had a first-round pick every year since 1989. And unless something changes, this would be the first year that they might not have a first-round pick. Woo!

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Woo!

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This is the stuff Brought to you by Panini America. We'll also get to your phone calls. It's always best and worst of the weekend. By the way, Will Anderson is now the first non-quarterback to reach $50 million a year, and that's a $134 million guarantee with that contract. Danil Hunter will make just over $40 million, and we don't know what's going to happen with C.J. Stroud.

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So imagine you've got two defensive players combined making $90 million, and you're not quite sure what's going to happen with C.J. Stroud. Now, this drives the Texan fans crazy whenever I bring this up. Oh, they're going to extend him. They're not going to trade him. I didn't say they were going to trade him. I just said I would wait another year.

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And it looks like that's probably what they're doing, going to wait another year, let C.J. Stroud prove everybody wrong. He can bet on himself. Or, you know, I can't give him full price here. Like, I'm not giving him $60 million. Not with what I saw, and it seems like he's regressing. Now, you can say offensive line. You can say injuries to wide receiver. I understand all of that.

Chapter 3: What are the reactions to the Clippers vs. Thunder trade?

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You know, they extend you normally after three years. Yes. Yes. You can. Joe Burrow. Josh Allen. You can do that. In this particular instance, I'm not doing it. I've got to see something more. Yes, Paulie.

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If you go back to his rookie year, he could have got the contract extension then, but it's not available. His rookie year, 4,100 yards, 23 touchdowns, only five picks. He was eighth in the MVP voting, eighth. But last year, 3,000 yards, 19 touchdowns, eight picks.

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And like you said, this is the spring where it's either you extend them a year early, like Mahomes or Burrow or Josh Allen, or you wait for that fourth year and let it play out.

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And if he happens to play great and you extend him, good for him. But what did I say about Tua? Don't do it. How did that work out? What did I say about Kyler Murray? Don't do it. How did that work out? What did I say about Daniel Jones? Don't do it. How did that work out? Patience. At that position, patience. Yes, Mark.

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And Troy Aikman, during the broadcast of the Patriots-Texans game, he even talked about they have real questions about whether or not to extend C.J. Stroud. So it's not just you saying that.

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I know, but whenever I would hear Texan fans will call up, what do you got against CJ? You know, they had injury. I understand all of that. But when you fumble, as many times as he fumbled, that have to do with injuries? That's just you. And some of those passes against the Patriots where you're going, what are you doing? And I'll go back to when he was in college.

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And look, I co-signed on it and said, man, that guy is a great player. The potential to be a great player. And I think it's still there. But you just saw Will Anderson get extended. And I wonder what C.J. Stroud and his agent, their angle is going to be. Would you sign for something a little less if they're willing to give you that? Or do you bet on yourself? We'll take a break.

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When we come back, we'll talk a little bit more about the Dexter Lawrence trade from the Giants to the Bengals. We'll get to your phone calls coming up. 877-3DP-SHOW. We're back after this. Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. You ready?

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Chapter 4: What are the details of the Dexter Lawrence trade?

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He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to The Girlfriends, Trust Me Babe, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Lil' Kim's boobs at the VMAs?

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Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people? I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Lil' Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back At It podcast. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.

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Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now.

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Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to Look Back at It on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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eight seven seven three dp show operator tyler sitting by and take your phone calls fritzie dylan marv all yours truly in the backroom guys by the way i was uh... in pennsylvania over the weekend for a wedding and uh... i don't know if it's lancaster or lancaster but it's a lovely town and i was in lancaster i believe pennsylvania for the weekend and uh... we have a lot of fans there who know

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Do you have the correct pronunciation of Lancaster or Lancaster, Paulie?

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The former is correct, Dan. Lancaster, like Lancaster.

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Lancaster. Lancaster. Not Lancaster. Correct. Okay. Because there is a Lancaster or Lancaster, Ohio, and I believe there's a Lancaster or Lancaster wine as well. Yes, Dylan. So Lancaster has a big Amish population. Are we big with the Amish? I don't know. I didn't meet it. I did see some Amish, but nobody came up to me and said, oh, Dan Patrick, I love you in the Sandler movies. Yes, Paul?

Chapter 5: How does the trade impact the Bengals' future?

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Yeah, yeah. I'd like to know more.

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More than that, though.

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I'd like to know more.

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Yeah, you will. Italian food as well. But the big German is there, and we've got a beautiful set and more details forthcoming. I mentioned the Dexter Lawrence trade to the Bengals, and the Bengals are giving up the 10th pick in the draft. Dexter Lawrence is 28 and making just under $30 million. Now, there are defensive players that you can take, get them on a rookie deal.

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When Dexter Lawrence is good, he's really good. But I've got to keep him on the field. When he's on the field over the last three years, the Giants' 8th in sack rate, 15th in pressure rate. Okay, I'm fine with that. But at that age, I think if he was 25, then I'd be more interested than he's 28. Now, I'm giving up the 10th pick overall.

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I've got my quarterback and my two receivers, and now I have my interior defensive lineman. Now, they had to do something defensively. Now, they screwed up the Trey Hendrickson situation. Let him go. You don't get anything in return for him, but you get a compensatory pick there.

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But either you're going to keep him or trade him, then he ends up going to Baltimore, so he stays in the division against you. I didn't like the move for the Bengals. But they want to do something now because Joe Burrow is like, hey, let's do something now. It feels like there's an urgency with Joe Burrow being on the clock.

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That you went to a Super Bowl and it seems like you're getting further and further away. You've got to stay healthy. You do have two great receivers. But... And maybe this is one of those, hey, we got to do something here. Dexter Lawrence wanted out of New York, wants to be compensated. And did they give him a contract extension, I believe? Or are they going to?

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Trent Williams just got a contract extension. Shefty reporting that two-year deal, $50 million, I think, with the 49ers. Yes, Paul?

Chapter 6: How does Wembanyama's performance affect MVP discussions?

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So Terry Pendleton has an MVP. Josh Donaldson has an MVP award. Kevin Mitchell has an MVP award in MLB, right?

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So it's whoever's having the best season. So it's not like a narrative competition. The NBA is more narrative-driven as far as the MVP more than any other league for me. I'm going to give you a bloop for bringing up, you know, Kevin Mitchell. Terry Pendleton. My Atlanta – oh, man, I remember that. And I was like, wow. I'm sorry. I can't give Terry Pendleton the MVP. I'm sorry. I can't, Marvin.

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I can't. But he got it, though. He did.

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2162.698 - 2176.81 Paulie

He did. He did. Yeah, Paul. But if you're a guy like Luka, who didn't even make the top three finalists this year, it does feel like there's no way for him to do it. That year with Dallas, what was that, two years ago? When they went to the final. Yeah. He averaged 34.

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Jeez.

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34, 9, and 10. And he finished in third. He couldn't even get second. This year, 33-and-a-half, 8-and-8, and did not make the final three.

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But this is what's happened. Now all of a sudden he doesn't play defense. I never heard that was – now, that might be part of the reason why Dallas got rid of him, that he was getting heavy, he was lazy on defense, but he was still putting up offensive numbers. Now, he plays for the Lakers, so he's always going to be in mainstream media.

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They're always going to be talking about the Lakers because it's the Lakers. Can he win an MVP in his career? If you don't win the MVP, now, if they'd taken that vote after he took his team to the NBA Finals, then he's going to be the MVP. But it feels like there is a narrative to him. You know, Joker doesn't play defense.

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I didn't hear that when he was winning the MVPs, but now Wade didn't play defense.

Chapter 7: Who are the top contenders for the NBA MVP this year?

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Well, Victor Wembenyama plays defense, and he's becoming a very good offensive player. He's almost becoming the Otani of the NBA because he's great at two different things, offensively and defensively. And there's nobody like him. Michael Jordan was the best defensive player and the best offensive player for years. They had to go out of their way to go, well...

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the Suns have the better record, or the Jazz have the better. There was nobody more valuable than Mike. Nobody. Even those players, if you said, who is the best player in the league, they would say, well, Mike is. But we were like, I don't know, how about Carl Malone for an MVP?

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Chapter 8: What makes Jokic a strong MVP candidate?

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Now, they did have great stats, but they weren't more valuable than Mike. Yes, Marvin. On and off the floor. The most valuable, bar none.

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And even so, the beginning of the Reggie Miller 30 for 30, it starts out with Michael Jordan retiring. They were like, oh, it's open. Somebody else can win the NBA title. That's how the 30 for 30 started.

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That's how dominant he was. And then you give Charles Barkley and Carmelo an MVP award? I know. You got to get a new guy. I know. That's another guy that never won three straight MVP awards, by the way. Mike didn't.

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Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

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I got the baseball MVP odds. DraftKings just sent me this. Otani's the overwhelming favorite. Ronald Acuna Jr. III is second. And then Corbin Carroll... is third on that list, as Paulie Googles Corbin Carroll. At least I'm honest. I saw you immediately start typing. I know who he is. I just had to double-check the team. Corbin Carroll, plus 1,600. Ronald Acuna Jr., the third, plus 1,000.

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Shohei Otani, minus 300. Corbin Carroll, Paulie. Yeah, baseball player. Yeah. Always odds? Yeah. No, no. Who does he play for? Arizona Diamondbacks. Okay, there you go. Aaron Judge is a slight favorite in the American League. Jordan Alvarez is second, and then Bobby Witt Jr., the third, is third. Bobby Witt Jr. is a wonderful player. He's fast, plays shortstop.

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He's a really great all-around player. But Aaron Judge is still your favorite. Let's take a break. All right, take a break here. We've got more phone calls coming up. We'll talk about the Patriots situation coming up.

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Now, I'm going to try to do this in a professional manner of discussing this football-wise with Vrabel, Robert Kraft reportedly contacting the New York Post or having somebody who can squash the story that was coming out with Diana Rossini and Mike Vrabel.

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But Albert Breer, who's based in Boston, I want to have him on, and then we can talk about this moving forward with the Patriots, with Mike Vrabel. He will not be punished. Diana Rossini has lost her job. But we'll have that for you coming up next hour. Also, Reggie Miller in the final hour of the program. But when we come back, our play of the day, Dan Patrick's show.

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