Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What were the standout moments from the NFL Draft weekend?
Yeah. A touch. Yeah, it was just a little bit, but I'd rather it be faster than slower. And I know Mike Greenberg, who hosted for the Mothership, said, you know, maybe we should let the host call a timeout and there's other draft picks that you want to talk a little bit more about. Well, the problem with that is, ESPN is not the only game in town.
There's other networks, other shows that are carrying the draft. So if Greeny goes, hey, I'd like to call a timeout, I want to explore a little bit more about why this happened. Well, then all the other shows got to go, wait, what, Greeny called a timeout? can't do that. Yes, John?
That seems more like a team website should offer, like if you want more extended information about picks in the later rounds, go to our website and there's an analyst there live chatting about it, but nothing more than that.
Yeah, I think that there should be something adjacent to the draft picks if you want to explore a little bit more with your team, and maybe you have somebody who will be there to give you maybe a little bit more of a synopsis on your player. Still feels like Sean McVay is answering questions about Ty Simpson, and he's tired of answering questions about Ty Simpson.
But, Sean, you can't convince me that you were grumpy about something else that was going on in your life. If it is, tell me what it was because you want to win now. You can't be excited because Ty Simpson's coming in and you, of course, have Matthew Stafford.
I can't be excited we got this quarterback because I got a quarterback who's a Hall of Famer and you might have been the best team in football last year. And if you're going to convince me Ty Simpson, that's a good pick, he might be the right guy, but at the wrong time. He's not going to help you this year. And if he does, that means Matthew Stafford's hurt.
But if you are going to tell me that Kenyon Sadiq or Mekhi Lemon couldn't have helped you more, if you're Sean McVay, maybe there's a defender there. But if I can add a tight end who runs a 4-3-40, or I got Lemon, who's a USC kid, who is a tough runner after the catch, that to me felt like that would have made Sean McVay a little happier. But he kept saying, no, no, no, no, no.
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Chapter 3: How did the NFL Draft atmosphere in Pittsburgh compare to previous years?
I go, okay. I'm not buying it. Because I would have been like, are you going to be kidding me? and we're going to use the 13th pick, can't we trade down? If we trade down, it sounds better. Like if we got him at the 26th pick, and then you go, okay, which is what I thought they were going to do. I thought that they would go at the very end of the first round, and they would try to get Ty Simpson.
But I would not be happy if I'm Sean McVay. Now, I would have been probably better at showing that I'm a team guy, but the fact that he was noticeably upset, angry, I liked it. It was an honest moment there. Yeah, so that seemed to just hang over the draft, and it still is going to, and even in the offseason. And then I hear the Rams aren't out on Jimmy Garoppolo yet.
Like, I think they're trying to get Jimmy Garoppolo to still want to be with the team as a backup. So it was fun. But once again, Pittsburgh, you did a wonderful job. The audiences that came out all three days spirited into it. And I would think per capita, I don't think anybody, maybe Green Bay, buys more gear than those fans in Pittsburgh. Wow. All right, so we'll talk to Chris Sims.
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Chapter 4: Why did Diego Pavia go undrafted despite being a Heisman finalist?
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Chapter 5: What factors contributed to the NFL's perception of smaller quarterbacks?
Well, there's a lot of reasons to that. One, you know, smaller quarterback. I think the league is a little down on smaller quarterbacks right now. Two, when he had to play within the pocket, it's underwhelming to watch him in those scenarios. He's not a high-level thrower of the football. He plays a style and is most successful when it's backyard-type football, but yet he's not very fast either.
And then he plays small. And then also on top of that, Dan, nobody wants to bring in their practice squad third-string quarterback who likes to make headlines for the wrong reasons at times. And I think all of those situations are why he wasn't drafted this weekend. I know I spent a lot of time Thursday and Friday on this story, and that's Ty Simpson going to the Rams. Yeah.
And I'm trying to understand the strategy of taking a guy for a team that might be the best team in football, with apologies to Seattle, but you're taking a guy who, best case scenario, doesn't help you this year and maybe not next year. So why take him that high, given that I had a couple of offensive weapons? Sadiq was there. Lemon there. Devontae Adams is 34. Exactly.
So help me understand the philosophy there. Well, I don't think I'm going to because I can't understand it either. I mean, I certainly wouldn't have done it.
Chapter 6: How does personality impact a quarterback's draft prospects?
That was not what I was for. I mean, again, listen, you can still hear. You hear it? Those are the Seahawks and the 49ers. They're still cheering that the Rams took Ty Simpson. I mean, yes. I mean, because you said it. They're the second best team in football last year. By all due accounts, if they go to the Super Bowl, they're going to beat the Patriots. They were a better football team.
So, yeah, you look at that pick 13, and I know the whole league and the NFC West especially was like, oh, my gosh, the Rams got pick 13. I think there were some thoughts there that they were like, oh, gosh, I'm scared they're going to trade into the top 10 and really get some splash-type player to add to their awesome football team on top of that. So, yeah, listen, I know it was a –
an extra pick they had from the Atlanta Falcons trade, and they probably feel like they're playing with house money. But, man, you're in a Super Bowl window right now. Matthew Stafford's playing phenomenal football, like you said. Ty Simpson's a guy, again, smaller. I don't think anybody viewed him as a top 20 pick in the NFL draft.
And the league is a little down on those type of guys like I'm telling you about. And he hasn't played a lot of football to where now he's going to sit on the bench and not play football for a little bit while longer. That's to me the part that doesn't quite make sense. And I'll throw this out there too, Dan.
I mean, for a guy like Matthew Stafford, this is only going to motivate him to play one more year extra. Oh, you think you're going to tell me when I'm going to retire? Oh, damn, you didn't want to waste a pick like you said, Makai Lemon? I mean, Devontae Adams is not what he used to be, and he's 34, and he gets injured.
So, yeah, that was not my favorite pick, and certainly it's still a head-scratcher to me, and by all due accounts, Sean McVay's reaction on Thursday night as well. I'm trying to understand the Cardinals philosophy with Jeremiah Love that I get it. You got to have a face for the franchise. McBride is great. We're still waiting for Harrison to be something. You don't have a quarterback.
He's too talented to pass up. I just don't know if that's the right team for him at the right time. And then you go out and you get Carson Beck later, who is probably going to see the field. Aside from Mendoza, Carson Beck is probably the next quarterback who's going to be playing this season. It wouldn't... It wouldn't shock me. Jacoby Percet, I expect him to be there, be the quarterback.
I think Arizona went the route of, we're not going to make this all about the quarterback.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of being a backup quarterback in the NFL?
Just because we need one doesn't mean we're just going to pick one and one that we don't necessarily like high in the draft like a Ty Simpson. I never got the sense they would do that. Again, they were a team that was kind of burned by the smaller type quarterback. I worked in New England with Monte Austin for it. I mean, the philosophical thing
thought at the quarterback position in New England, and I believe Monty believes in that, is that bigger quarterbacks. That's traditionally what they had. I think that's what he believes in. Now, where it's good, Dan, is this. This is Mike LaFleur. He's a run game expert.
And he knows how to use the running back, being from Shanahan, being from McVay, his brother up in Green Bay, trading for Josh Jacobs, adding him to the offense. They're going to know how to use him not only in the run game and the pass game. And then they got a decent O-line. They got something forming here. So I think what they're kind of doing is just building the team.
and then hopefully next year they can strike while the iron's hot and finally get their quarterback of the future. But for now, that wasn't there, and they went with the best offensive player on the board and a guy that has a chance to be Marshall Falk if they can support him the right way with the team around him. Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co-host, and his podcast entitled Unbuttoned.
It's rare when we say this, but the Jets seemed to have a good draft, but who had a better draft, the Giants or the Jets? Ooh, I mean, they both, to me, are at the top, okay? They're at the top. Like, if you gave me stars, and I'm going to do this on my podcast a little bit later, I'm going to tell you the New York Giants and the New York Jets were two of the best drafts there is.
Now, let me just say this right off the bat. Because the Jets was phenomenal. Three first-round picks. I liked them all. And they're going to help their football team. And it stays consistent with what the Jets have done all offseason, which was signing veteran players that can make them good right now. Because if they're not good right now, their butts are hot on the hot seat there.
They've got to make it work. And I think the guys they drafted can help them out right away. Now, the Giants, of course, I love that draft. And this is where people are missing out on this Arbel Reese conversation. Okay, so Arbel Reese, yes, he has a chance to beat Micah Parsons. But as we know, Micah Parsons played a lot of middle linebackers first year with the Dallas Cowboys.
I know everybody's looking at it right now going, wait, they have pass rushers. I get it. Okay, well, here's the first thing. Everybody talks about Sonny Stiles, and I tried to emphasize this on my Chris Simms on Button podcast. The best middle linebacker in the draft was Arbel Reese. So as freaky as everybody told you about Sonny Stiles, he was the second-best linebacker on his football team.
Arbel Reese is the best middle linebacker to come out in football in quite some time. So you have that right off the bat, and that's where I think some Giant fans are missing. So he's there. He's starting. He's going to be phenomenal there. And then they can slowly work him in. Kayvon Thibodeau has one year left playing there. So he'll be the third rotational guy. It'll be Abdul Carter.
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