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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 1 – Knicks Back in the NBA Finals, Vincent Goodwill

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What led the Knicks to their 11th consecutive playoff win?

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Chapter 2: How did the Knicks perform against the Cavaliers in the playoffs?

654.22 - 659.768 Marvin

Imagine being a Knicks fan today and your issue is who do you want to face next in the finals? Golly.

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659.788 - 667.119 Dan Patrick

Yeah, it's a nice dilemma to have. Yes. Yes, Dylan. It does seem like you're getting a little bit of a raw deal, though.

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667.139 - 675.912 Marvin

It's like pick your poison, really, right, with the Thunder and the Spurs. I mean, it's not, you know, it'll be their toughest test by far so far.

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675.892 - 684.603 Dan Patrick

Yeah, well, you can't be choosy here. You've got to take who is ever in front of you. But I would just say I'd probably rather face OKC.

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Chapter 3: What challenges did the Cavaliers face during the series?

685.424 - 709.08 Dan Patrick

Here's another thing that happens. A lot of times we'll watch a sport. We might not watch a team, and then you're forced to watch that team. And then when you watch that team, you go... Like the Spurs, when they were winning championships, you weren't watching during the regular season, but you had to watch during the postseason. And then you go, oh, they're not very excited. No, they weren't.

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709.641 - 734.99 Dan Patrick

They were just great. OKC, you don't watch them during the regular season, but now you're forced to watch them, and then you're watching SGA, and then you're going, golly, does he flop. For the last couple of years, he's been doing that. But you haven't been watching. Now you're forced to watch. And then everybody is outraged that he gets these calls. I don't blame him.

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735.11 - 763.035 Dan Patrick

Now you can say, oh, you're a basketball purist. Would you have a problem with this? No. No. Whatever I can get away with. I mean, blame it on the officials. Don't blame it on SGA. If they stop calling, he'll stop flopping. Right? That's what happens. So I'm going to blame the NBA for SGA. But if I'm SGA, I take advantage of everything, anything. I want an edge.

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763.776 - 790.204 Dan Patrick

Oh, you know, the route that you're taking, that's not basketball worthy. That's not, you know, MVP worthy. But now you're forced to watch it, and now you're watching all the plays, not just clips. Oh, I don't watch the NBA because they flop. Well, how do you know they flop? Without watching. But I'm curious how things will be officiated in the NBA Finals.

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790.605 - 814.696 Dan Patrick

Because you want to have the best game on display. You don't want it to be, oh, look at this. You know, like, we would watch soccer for years, and I would go, oh, I hate watching it. All they do is flop. Well, that's because you're watching highlights, maybe, and not the full game, to give it full context. But yes, does SGA, is he a foul merchant? Yes, he is. He's mastered it.

815.597 - 837.558 Dan Patrick

It's a master class. Harden used to do this. Mastered it. I mean, Pete Harden was all about initiating contact, and you are the one that gets called for the foul. But that's what's going to be interesting. You're going to be able to see this Knicks team, and you're going to get this question. Are they likable? I heard that a couple of times over the weekend.

837.578 - 868.443 Dan Patrick

Hey, do you think the Knicks are likable? I go... Yeah. They play hard. Great home court advantage. Your star acts like a star. It's a team effort. I love watching Josh Hart. Cat has sacrificed. OG Ananobi has been great. They found a team. Landry Schammett. You find a team, and if you look down through the years, you've got to have a Josh Hart or a Caruso.

869.144 - 896.046 Dan Patrick

Throughout history, there was always one of those guys, Andre Iguodala. You've got to have that guy. He's kind of the glue. What do you need? I'll do it. Not everybody can be a star. And just about everybody was a star when they were in college or high school. Here, they have a true team effort. And I think that's what's really incredible about this run. And it starts with Brunson.

897.545 - 920.507 Dan Patrick

He is going to give you everything that he possibly has. And I think because of that, it kind of just trickles down. And I do believe there is something about bringing in players who win. Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson won in college. You know, the Villanova Knicks. I do think that that's really important to have winners, guys who know what it takes. They've won before.

Chapter 4: How is Jalen Brunson influencing the Knicks' success?

1442.838 - 1461.559 Vincent Goodwill

Where's Chet Holmgren as far as his fatigue? Where's Victor Wimbenyama? as far as his fatigue and all those guys. They haven't played this long. Like, Dan, you know how fatiguing this is. The Knicks have had the benefit of beating teams coming out of very fatiguing seven-game series.

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1461.86 - 1479.769 Vincent Goodwill

That's Philadelphia after their first-round tilt with the Celtics coming down from 3-1, and Cleveland after going seven games with Detroit, and the Knicks have pounced on them. When the finals happen, there could be a three-day break But it's not one day and then game one and then you can't really get from behind the eight ball.

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1480.947 - 1506.297 Dan Patrick

With the Knicks, this has been a historical run. And we were just talking about there's no consolation prizes with New York sports teams, right? So you've come this far. You get to the finals. It's not a question of, hey, if we win, you have to win, I think, to come away from this saying, I feel good about this season. Well, I can tell by your facial gestures you don't agree with me.

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1507.289 - 1527.57 Vincent Goodwill

No, I can't say that. I used to be the person that says, winning is only winning. But you ain't never been no damn where for 25 years, Dan. Like, people are going to remember this night. People are going to remember that Sunday in Philadelphia, Mother's Day. Like, they're going to remember the journey.

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1527.59 - 1544.992 Vincent Goodwill

They're going to remember the despair that they felt when they lost, when Tom Thibodeau was fired, when they lost to Indiana last year. Man, we may not ever get back here again. And then you wind up getting to this stage so far. And I was telling a lot of people last night, yeah, Knicks fans should celebrate.

Chapter 5: What are the expectations for the Knicks in the NBA Finals?

1545.393 - 1561.275 Vincent Goodwill

Not just because June is coming and you have no idea what happens there, but this has been a remarkable run up until this point, one of the more dominant runs in NBA history. It is really damn hard to get to the NBA Finals, and it should be celebrated. Like, for whatever reason,

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1561.255 - 1575.875 Vincent Goodwill

When baseball teams clinch their divisions, clinch their divisions, they have beer baths and celebrate, and they do it in every round. And in the NBA, for some reason, it's like you can only win the championship or else. I no longer subscribe to that theory.

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1577.297 - 1594.418 Dan Patrick

The Atlanta Braves won one World Series, but they were always in contention. Do you think that they came away going, hey, you know, we lost another World Series. We had a great year. It's about winning. The Knicks should be good. They should be good.

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1595.815 - 1605.085 Vincent Goodwill

Dan, have you not seen the New York Knicks and the way that they have operated for 30 damn years?

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1605.105 - 1629.627 Dan Patrick

No, this year they should be good because last year they should have been in the NBA Finals. They should be here. Boston was wounded. People still were skeptical of Cleveland. We didn't trust the 76ers to stay healthy. How the Hawks got in and took a 2-1 series lead, I mean... They should be here. They were a really good team this year.

1630.749 - 1656.766 Vincent Goodwill

They should be here. You're talking about them winning it. You're going against potentially. Let's just look ahead. You are potentially going against the current, in theory, dynasty, dynastic team in the Oklahoma City Thunder with a two-time MVP. and a reigning champion that could have very well have won 70 games this year if not for going one and four against the San Antonio Spurs.

1657.286 - 1683.45 Vincent Goodwill

And that's the other team on the other side of this, another 60-win team with an alien that you have no answer for. So while I'm not saying the Knicks should be satisfied, I'm saying let's keep this all in perspective. Remember, Dan, remember this. Stephon Marbury, Amari Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony, Phil Jackson, hey, should we trade for Giannis? Maybe we should trade for Giannis.

1683.59 - 1698.203 Vincent Goodwill

You traded five first-round picks for Mikael Bridges in their own way for the better part of 30 years. So to say, hey, this is the only thing that matters is winning this championship, if you're the Boston Celtics, yes. If you're the Los Angeles Lakers, yes.

1698.443 - 1711.799 Vincent Goodwill

You know the phrase that we say sometimes in black households, we go somewhere new, act like you've been somewhere before, don't embarrass me. That's what we say. That's what we should be saying to the Knicks. They act like they've been nowhere before. They've never been nowhere.

Chapter 6: How do injuries impact the Thunder and Spurs in the playoffs?

2325.119 - 2348.921 Vincent Goodwill

Shea Gildress Alexander is a two-time MVP. He's lived a pretty charmed life up until this point. He's going to have to show up, and not by showing up by falling on the floor. He's going to have to give you a suitable for framing game five, six, and possible seven in this series. That's going to be required of him in the next five or six days. I'm anxious to see if he's up to it.

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2348.941 - 2353.185 Dan Patrick

Suitable for framing. Seems like you've maybe written that before, haven't you?

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2353.992 - 2368.616 Vincent Goodwill

Nah, nah. The only thing I've said, Dan, is June belongs to no one. And that's what we are finding out in these playoffs. And, you know, with all the parody in the NBA. So it could be the champs or it could be San Antonio's time because the league moves faster than ever, quicker than ever.

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2368.696 - 2389.791 Vincent Goodwill

Nobody would have expected the New York Knicks, the team that routinely broke themselves every year because Tom Thibodeau drove them so hard to be the team that breaks everybody else. in Game 4, Game 6 of these playoff series. The Knicks have broken their opponents, and I could not have predicted that. I don't think anybody could have predicted that.

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2389.871 - 2395.741 Dan Patrick

Vincenzo Goodwill, Jr., the third ESPN NBA senior writer. Thank you. We appreciate it, Vince.

2396.422 - 2397.985 Vincent Goodwill

Hey, happy belated birthday to them.

2398.005 - 2404.536 Dan Patrick

Thank you, man. That's Vincent Goodwill. Always fun having him on. As you say, Marvin, we get in the crates.

2404.786 - 2405.588 Vincent Goodwill

Oh, for sure.

2405.608 - 2414.985 Dan Patrick

When Vincent's on, we get into the crates. Yeah, we dig in those crates. Yeah, into history. All right, we'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. Best and worst of the weekend and our play of the day next.

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