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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 2 – Stanley Cup Final Delivers, Jalen Brunson ‘s Legacy

05 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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19.505 - 29.967 Chris Mannix

You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition for The Office or something? I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

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29.987 - 35.459 Unknown

Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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35.479 - 52.225 Chris Mannix

Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring. And tedious. And depressing. And makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth. And help you figure out this crazy modern world.

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How about something about a comedic tone?

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We have a winner. Yes. Listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breathe? and it's beautiful. The guys are young and cute and fit. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force.

87.653 - 113.677 Chris Mannix

From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. Listen to American Football on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone sees me as a football player, but before anything else, I'm human.

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Every single day, I'm still learning how to live with problems, mistakes, relationships, emotions, ever since I was born. This isn't a normal podcast. Everything here is spontaneous, real, and genuine. Just honest conversations about what it means to be alive. I'm Javier Chicharito Hernandez, and listen to Learning to be Human on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: What happened in the Stanley Cup Final last night?

856.992 - 865.503 Chris Mannix

The Nets are on fire right now. Oh, are they? Oh, okay. They were the team in Brooklyn. They were in New Jersey. They were more relevant at the Izod Center in East Rutherford than in Brooklyn.

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Chapter 3: How did the Hurricanes manage to tie the series?

865.523 - 883.449 Chris Mannix

That's a fact. That's a fact. I'll give you that. Yeah, Paulie. Would you say that the Nets right now are the most dysfunctional organization? No, no. Sacramento. Sacramento. Quick answer. Sacramento is the most irrelevant team in the NBA. Like, Sacramento, there's no hope. Like, right now, there is no hope for the Sacramento Kings.

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883.469 - 903.674 Chris Mannix

That could change the next couple of years, but at least if you're the Nets, like, hey, we drafted five first-rounders last year. Maybe one of them can play. We've got another high draft pick this year. Maybe he can play. The Sacramento Kings have a team. I would argue that... 13 of the probably 15 guys on that team aren't going to be there in the next couple of years.

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904.215 - 925.769 Chris Mannix

They're bringing back Doug Christie to effectively be like a meat shield for them during a losing season. Sacramento is worse than the Wizards and the Nets? The Wizards have hope. The Wizards have Anthony Davis, Trey Young, the number two overall draft pick. They've got hope in Washington. Or number one overall draft pick, sorry. There's hope in Washington.

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926.169 - 946.099 Chris Mannix

There's no hope right now in Sacramento. Like, I'm sorry, there's nothing. None of the guys, the star is there. Like, does Zach Levine want to be there? Does DeMar DeRozan really want to be there? They've got a couple of good young pieces. But like Doug Christie, if we're being honest, Doug Christie's basically there just so they don't have to hire another coach that will lose this year.

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946.24 - 966.023 Chris Mannix

Like, this year is about losing for Sacramento, which is ironic because the NBA... with this new draft lottery reform, has punished teams that are bad. So the Sacramento Kings, theoretically, could finish, probably will finish, with a bottom three record in the NBA, desperately in need of a star player infusion, and they'll get relegated.

966.464 - 988.955 Chris Mannix

They'll get tossed right back to the back of the first round after that. So Sacramento, to me, a level below the New York Knicks. It made me think, though, talking about Brunson, to bring it back there for a moment. elevated to maybe the number one spot in New York lore if they win a championship. What does it do, though, for Brunson when it comes to his ranking among small guards in NBA history?

988.975 - 1005.377 Chris Mannix

For the purposes of this conversation, I'm going to say 6'2 and smaller. Because you go 6'3, Steph is the number one guy on that list. You look at guards in NBA history... that are six foot two and smaller that have had the kind of impact that Jalen Brunson has had. It's a very short list.

1005.858 - 1028.498 Chris Mannix

You want to go back to the 50s and 60s, Bob Cousy, gold standard for that, won multiple championships with Boston. A little bit further down, Isaiah Thomas, two championships as the number one guy with the Detroit Pistons. Allen Iverson, the most electric player out of that group, but never won a championship. Had one shot at it, didn't win a championship with the Philadelphia 76ers.

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Chris Paul, another player, six-foot, long career, 20-year NBA career, decorated, one of the best point guards of all time. Nobody would dispute that. If you're making the proverbial Mount Rushmore, Of these young, small guards, 6'2 and under, I just named you four. If Jalen Brunson wins a championship, does he knock one of those four off? Is there another that belongs on that Mount Rushmore?

Chapter 4: What impact does Jalen Brunson have on the Knicks' legacy?

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Number one hits, millions of records sold, awards, sold out tours. You think the Jonas Brothers are satisfied? Nope.

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Chapter 5: Can Jalen Brunson become the greatest Knick of all time?

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It's podcast time.

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We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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Hey Jonas is available now and their first guest is a big one, Paul Rudd.

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1242.301 - 1252.758 Chris Mannix

You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition for The Office or something? I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

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Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up fam, it's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reeves. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game.

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His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reeves, I gotta manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randle.

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And then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night-to-night basis on offense.

Chapter 6: What are the statistical comparisons between Brunson and Knicks legends?

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And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court and you going to get the ball.

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So listen to point game on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Happy Pride from the Outspoken Podcast Network.

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Chapter 7: How does a championship affect Brunson's legacy?

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Madison. Wait, so Luke was the son of Vader, and Vader was turned by RuPaul? Yeah, well, somebody turned him. Some old, old, old witch. Learn to love yourself unapologetically with BFF, Black Fat Femme, and start your day with intention with Waking Up With Ryan, coming in July. I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place.

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1392.007 - 1394.331 Chris Mannix

Soccer. Football. It's home.

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Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breathe? Why do I breathe?

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I inherited that fandom from my mom.

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I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force.

1407.187 - 1421.603 Chris Mannix

From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great.

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A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.

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Are they the only ones that don't like it?

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Actually, nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of Brunson's contract decisions?

1975.08 - 1992.862 Chris Mannix

So he went to the Seahawks in the third round. He found his way, and even now people are like, well, he's not that great, but the stats don't bear that out. Brunson, he was awesome in college, but it didn't translate to the pro draft. You covered the draft, and he was not, you know, no one wanted him. No one desired him.

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1992.882 - 2012.22 Chris Mannix

Even when the Knicks got him, like, we're settling for him, and it's almost like he doesn't fit the part because he can't sky over the rim and things like that. I think what we underestimated, and by we, I mean everybody in the NBA, because everybody passed on Jalen Brunson. The Dallas Mavericks could have had Jalen Brunson on a four-year, $55 million deal early in 2021.

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2012.26 - 2038.744 Chris Mannix

They could have gone over $100 million to sign him in the summer of 2022. What people missed about Brunson was the footwork. And when I look at Brunson, I liken that footwork to some of the great boxers that I've covered historically. He has the footwork of a Floyd Mayweather Jr. He has the footwork of a Muhammad Ali. He's that special when it comes to his feet.

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2039.445 - 2060.301 Chris Mannix

He doesn't shoot over anybody in terms of elevation. He's not overpowering you in the paint, even though he is a strong guy. His ability... to change directions, to move, to create angles. That's what makes Jalen Brunson special. And we didn't appreciate that before the draft, when he went in the second round, and the Dallas Mavericks, and everybody else that has shot at Jalen Brunson.

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2060.321 - 2073.644 Chris Mannix

It wasn't just the Knicks that had a crack at Jalen Brunson. Anybody could have taken a flyer on him, gone and overpaid to go and get him. They didn't appreciate the footwork and how that would make him a great offensive player. Yeah, Paulie. Even what you're saying there, it proves your point.

2073.865 - 2093.53 Chris Mannix

Coming out of college, no one gets on social media and says, look at the footwork on that guy from Villanova. I can't wait to watch his footwork on the next level. We want to watch Zion Williamson at Duke and say, that's the guy we got to have. You look at the handles of a player. That's what made Kyrie Irving special. Kyrie Irving is the best ball handler I've ever seen.

2093.93 - 2114.195 Chris Mannix

He is great with the basketball. Allen Iverson, speed, electricity, did a lot of things special. Jalen Brunson, coming out of college, did not do a lot of things special. What he does special is he's got great feet. And watch some of these games. Watch game two tonight. Watch how he gets the basket. Watch how he changes direction. Watch how he gets his shot up.

2114.255 - 2129.878 Chris Mannix

How does this guy, who is 6'2", get his shot over guys that are 6'6", 6'7", sometimes shooting over bigger guys? His ability to do that comes down to footwork, and he's excellent, excellent at that, and that's what makes him special. Yeah, Dylan.

2130.23 - 2148.205 Chris Mannix

Yeah, I think the kind of like initial critiques of small guards is similar to quarterbacks in the NFL where there's sort of like these unwritten rules that you can be below a certain height, but then there's like the Drew Breeses and the Russell Wilsons, to use the Brunson thing, that come along and kind of disprove that.

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