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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 3 – Patrick Ewing, Old School College Hoops

21 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports, and giving you the real story behind the headlines. And we're going straight to the source, sports. the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear.

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And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.

Chapter 2: What insights does Patrick Ewing share about the Knicks' chances in the NBA Finals?

558.244 - 587.529 Patrick Ewing

You know, I see Ralph would have been a great player in this era. In our era, you know, people used to get mad at you if you were big and you don't get into the post or you start shooting too many jump shots. And that was Ralph's game. He was a skilled big. He was Victor's height. He was 7'4". He wanted to be a perimeter big. But in our era, people looked down on that.

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588.39 - 601.83 Patrick Ewing

But I thought that this era would have embraced him and embraced his abilities, which is what they're doing with Victor. And Victor is a special young man. Every time I watch him play, I see how special that he is.

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603.65 - 625.455 Dan Patrick

Yeah, he's got these unique traits that, you know, you don't want your 7'5 guy shooting a three-pointer. But in today's game, we kind of accept it. Like, even with you at Georgetown, I never knew you could shoot that well. And then you get to the NBA, and all of a sudden you're hitting 15, 18-footers. I'm like, why didn't Coach Thompson unleash this in college?

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626.498 - 647.347 Patrick Ewing

Well, you know, like I said, back in those era, they wanted us to be back to the basket, dunking it. Even when I first got to New York, I remember talking to Dickie McGuire. And he said the exact same thing. He's like, Patrick, I never knew you could shoot. And Dickie was... was, you know, the head scout for the Knicks for a lot of years.

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647.588 - 673.498 Patrick Ewing

His numbers in the Raptors, next to mine, I do have to say, next to mine. But he just said, you know, I really never thought that you could shoot. I thought all you could do was block shots and dunk. Well, I say, you know, Dick, you know, the big John was like, son, get your butt in the post. Work on the, you know, when you go to the NBA, then you can show them the rest of your game. But

674.137 - 705.944 Patrick Ewing

You know, I always could shoot. I could shoot in high school. You know, I developed a more all-around game as I got older. But I thought that, you know, I showed that I had the ability to do these things. And, you know, could I do it in this era? I didn't really shoot many threes, or I'm not sure if I'd be proficient at it as a lot of these guys are. Wemby... Jokic and Embiid, those guys.

705.964 - 711.732 Patrick Ewing

But if I practiced it, I probably would be just as proficient as they are.

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I got you with 19 three-pointers.

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And that's too many. Back in my era, that was too many.

Chapter 3: What memorable moments does Patrick Ewing recall from his time at Madison Square Garden?

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It's always great to talk to former greats of the game, and I never take it for granted. When you're around Isaiah, Patrick Ewing, Reggie, whoever it might be, you get guys who are in their 50s and 60s, and you've been with them almost every step of the way. certainly Patrick Ewing, his freshman year at Georgetown.

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I remember I went there, and they didn't allow the players, certainly freshmen, to do any interviews. And if John Thompson was going to sit down with you, then you got your interview. And I remember sitting down with Big John, and he was always intimidating. But he wanted to be intimidating. He wanted his teams to be intimidating. And therefore, Patrick Ewing was just a mystery. You were like...

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1545.68 - 1568.489 Dan Patrick

I don't know who this is. He doesn't do interviews. The way he played, he was so aggressive. He was so defensive-minded. And then he gets to the NBA. He's not defensive-minded. He's shooting 15, 18-foot jumpers. It was like, no, that was college. NBA, I'm shooting. Yes, Marv. DP, Paulie, this might be a question for you guys. Can you guys explain to me the Georgetown phenomenon?

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1568.509 - 1585.116 Dan Patrick

Because Patrick Ewing played the bulk of his career in New York City at the Garden, but he's probably more iconic and more famous for what he did at Georgetown. And he had an all-time Hall of Fame career in New York. Well, I think, you know, there was something different about Georgetown basketball.

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And they would have those starter jackets, and everybody wanted, like, you were wearing Georgetown gear. And it was for a younger audience, because they were like, man, I love the way they play. You know, they had those gray uniforms that were ugly, but, you know, they just had this...

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persona this bravado when they came on the floor it felt like they were already up five nothing and then you know that national title game Patrick's blocking every shot I think John Thompson said go after every shot to start that game against Jordan in North Carolina and he might have goaltended five or six shots in a row it was we're going to send a message whenever they put something up we're going to go after it

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and they played defense. I always marvel when people talk about today's athlete, the superstars back in the 70s, 80s, 90s. You had to play defense. John Thompson got his players to think defense first. Jerry Tarkanian got UNLV to think defense first. Mike Krzyzewski got his teams to think defense first. There's a correlation there to winning. John Wooden, it was about defense, playing defense.

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Now it's sort of lost, but back then, even with all these teams and these great players, you were playing defense first. Bob Knight, defense first. Yes, Paulie. I was 12 years old when Ewing showed up at Georgetown, and he was a household name when he arrived there, basically. And they were the team. They were like the counterculture team. They did it differently.

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John Thompson was defiant and didn't take anything from anybody, just like his team didn't on the court.

Chapter 4: When did Patrick Ewing stop hating Reggie Miller?

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It was like a scarlet letter that you put on these players. But he was tough. He was tough. He's another one of those guys that I wore down eventually, and we became friends. It took a long time. It's like Bob Knight. I'll wear you down. I'm playing the long game. And same thing happened with Coach Knight. You wear him down. I'm still here. I'm not leaving.

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Chapter 5: How does Patrick Ewing reflect on his rivalry with Reggie Miller?

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Yeah, Paul.

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Dan, a bunch of years ago, when we were just starting this version of the show, you brought us down to Washington, D.C. at the local radio station. And Coach John Thompson did a show before your show, our show. And we walked in the room, and I looked up at John Thompson at 6'10".

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He goes, hello, young man. And I was like, holy cow, it's him. Very cool. And it's nice when you get on somebody's level or they allow you. It's like when your kids get on a level where you go. I'm talking to an adult here. But you've got to prove yourself, man. Back then, you had to prove yourself. You know, Coach K. Even John Wooden.

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1775.306 - 1802.388 Dan Patrick

When I went to Coach Wooden's condominium, and this had to be in the early 80s, and I remember that we were sitting outside doing the interview. And I was trying, I wanted to go inside the condo. And it was really a modest condominium. But I thought, if I get in there, that means that he is kind of opening up the gates. That he knows that I know basketball.

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And man, am I piling it on with John Wooden. I'm bringing up guys who were eighth or ninth on the roster. I mean, I'm bringing up all these guys. Where they went to high school. Because I knew UCLA basketball. We get towards the end. My cameraman says, hey, I'm going to pack up and go. And Coach Wooden said, do you want a sandwich? And I said, no. Of course, and it was a pimento cheese.

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I don't like pimento cheese, but I didn't care. I would have eaten five of them. So we go inside. We sit down. He serves me up a glass of milk and pimento cheese, and I'm in John Wooden's condominium. And he goes, do you want to see some of my scrapbooks? Like, I'm going, you've got to be kidding me. So I'm trying to be like, I'd love to.

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Shows me scrapbooks, photos of his wife, Nell, and photos of him when he played. So I'm looking. He gives me, you know, the pyramid of success, and he writes a note on it. Well, the only problem is they didn't have Uber back then. I don't have a car. I'd come over with my cameraman, but I didn't want to pass up on this.

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So it took me probably three hours to get back that it would have taken me 30 minutes because I had to walk most of the way. And I'm hitchhiking back then. But it was so worth it. I got the pyramid of success piece of paper in my hand as I'm walking down. I didn't know where I was. I'm hitchhiking. But it was worth every moment of it to be able to get inside the condominium. Yeah, Paulie.

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That's the greatest walk of all time. You're probably sitting there having an out-of-body moment. I was just in John Wynn's apartment, and you're probably just soaking it in.

Chapter 6: What comparisons does Patrick Ewing make between Ralph Sampson and Victor Wembanyama?

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The dunking Dutchman, Rick Schmitz. Andrew in Michigan. Hi, Andrew. This message has been transcribed. One moment while I notify the caller. Andrew? Bye, Andrew. What was that? Chad in Florida. Hey, Chad, what's on your mind? Hey, how's it going, Dan? It's really an honor to be on the radio.

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Hey, real quick, Harsenside and holding Wemby and clutching him and not allowing Wemby to close out or elevate. It's like holding a 240-pound dumbbell on your hand and becoming an average NFL, I mean, sorry, NBA center.

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And also about Aaron Rodgers, like, I'm tired of seeing that angry, scowled, bitter on my television screen. I mean, it's just a bad look to the NFL. I'd rather see somebody, like, just energetic, excited, and just joyful to play the game and just competitive, you know?

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He's just different, though. Aaron is not that happy-go-lucky, big-smile guy. Just not. and I've been around him for a long time. He's just not that way. So I'm not sitting there going, hey, be happy. Have fun. How about a smile or two? Yes, Todd. He does have his moments when he smirks or winks at a receiver or back to the coach when they got away with something or a certain play was drawn up.

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So he's not completely frowning or angry or miserable. I think he's still having fun with it. I don't know if Tom Brady was having fun. Most of the moments, pretty intense. Yes, Marv. If Aaron Rodgers had five Super Bowls, we would have said, man, he's just always cool under pressure no matter what. But because people don't like him, he's always sulking. Luke in Columbus. Hi, Luke.

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What's on your mind?

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Morning, guys. 5'9", a hard 177. Yesterday, Dan, you gave a great rundown of the different murals you guys have in the man cave there and how they're about matchups that we will never see, one being LeBron versus Jordan.

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I'm curious now if you think that LeBron is into golf, if we'd ever get Netflix or something like that to put together kind of like the match did with quarterbacks and we could see LeBron versus Jordan in golf.

2147.898 - 2174.766 Dan Patrick

No, LeBron would take years to get to where Mike is. Mike plays 36 a day. That ain't happening. Mike would love if LeBron wanted to challenge him to golf. I would have Steph Curry go against Michael Jordan. Then we would have something interesting. Because Steph Curry, I think, could play on like a DP World Tour, Corn Fairy, something like that. I think he's that talented. Yes, Paul?

Chapter 7: What does Patrick Ewing reveal about his shooting ability in college versus the NBA?

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Well, that's a shot there, Mark. Would you say it to his face? No, no, no. I like behind people's back now. You like stabbing people in the back far better? I always say that to Todd. When he says something about an athlete, I go, okay, what happens when they call in? He goes, I'll be nice to them. I go, okay.

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I got a lot of bravado before, and then once I'm done with it, I say, hey, what's going on, buddy? Well, Phillip Rivers. You used to bash Phillip Rivers. And then I go, what happens when Phillip Rivers calls in? And then we had him on when he played. I changed my tune a little bit. I changed my tune a little bit. We played nice. Hi, Phil. I really enjoyed you with the Chargers.

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And I think what you're doing is incredible. Aren't you the guy that's the Bronco fan that always rips me? No, that's somebody else. I know what you're talking about. All right, let's take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

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Catch all of our shows at foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live.

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?

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We have some big news. What's the news, Nate? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

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So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and...

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Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

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