Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What are Dan's thoughts on the Knicks' chances in the NBA Finals?
I'm big on that because I think a lot of times that can be the difference. It's not glamour points. It's basically, hey, are you going to hustle, going after a rebound, keeping something alive? The Knicks outscored the Cavaliers in second-chance points, 32-5. That is the largest second-chance points differential in a playoff game since 1997. Woo!
Oh, stat of the day, stat of the day. Stat of the day, stat of the day. This is the status.
20 offensive rebounds. I think the Cavs had four or five. Fast break points, 33 points for the Knicks, nine for the Cavs. Game three, 17 fast break points. Cavs had four. Game two, 13 for the Knicks, eight for the Cavs. Game one, 13 for the Knicks, 12 for the Cavs. Maybe Cleveland was gassed. Maybe those seven-game series took a toll on them, but they shouldn't have been swept.
And you've got to hold on to win game one.
Chapter 3: How does Reggie Miller view the Knicks' journey to the finals?
I'm not saying you're winning the series, but you've got to. That was kind of emblematic of you can do it, but can you keep it up? And you let that dissipate right in front of you, and you never recovered. Yes, Mark. After last night's win, is Jalen Brunson's jersey already in the rafters at the Garden? Yes. Now he's going for something bigger as the all-time, maybe greatest Knicks player ever.
Now, I would lean towards Willis Reed or Walt Frazier because Walt Frazier was unbelievable in the NBA Finals in 1970. 36 points with 19 assists, and they ended up beating the Lakers. That's what Jalen Brunson might be competing against. Somebody who won a championship there. And there's going to be guys who will have more points than him all time, perhaps. Patrick Ewing was great.
Willis Reed was great. I mean, they've had great players. Allen Houston was a great player. I mean, they've had those players. They just haven't had the postseason success to go along with it. Part of that is... A lot of times you're going through Michael Jordan or the San Antonio Spurs in 1999. Fresh in Milwaukee is back. Hi, Fresh.
What's up, DP and Dan X? How was the weekend?
Great.
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Chapter 4: What factors contributed to the Knicks' success in the Eastern Conference?
Great. Got a quick question. We've seen these last four teams, well, three now, but they all have one superstar and a good roster. So I'm wondering, are we seeing a shift toward deep rosters with one superstar, or is this just a little blip before the big market teams spin back?
Well, I want depth. I think you're seeing depth. You've got teams that got tired, get tired, and OKC has depth. Now they've got injuries, so they are going to need everybody off that bench. I don't know if Dylan Harper is going to be a star. Darren Fox was a star with Sacramento. But you got Wemby. OKC, I think Chet Holmgren's a good player. I don't think he's a great player.
Jalen Williams has been great. He's just not healthy enough. The Knicks' Carl Anthony Towns is an all-star. Jalen Brunson, an all-star. So I would say they have two stars. Yeah, Marv. That is important no matter how top-heavy you are. Even like the Big 3 Heat, when they went to the finals in 2011, look at that roster.
Not the world's greatest roster, but then when they won those championships, Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Mario Chalmers, Rashard Lewis, guys like that, Udonis Haslam. I just named five guys that contributed, even the big three Celtics with James Posey and Eddie House and the white mamba himself. Like you need depth no matter how top heavy your roster is.
Yeah, and I think having two legitimate all-stars or the all-star caliber is really important. I don't think it's three guys as it used to be. Now it's two, and it's two because you can't afford three. If you have two and then you round out your roster, and I always go back, you know, your rotation might be seven players total, maybe eight.
You didn't go down the bench, but now you have that opportunity with some of these teams that you can bring somebody off the bench who can be a difference maker. Look at OKC in the playoffs. I mean, they got guys coming off the bench. You're like, wait a minute. They got that guy from the Sixers? Who's that AJ guy? I mean, that's a credit to that organization.
But that's also, we're going to need you at some point. And those guys have been front and center. Yeah, Paul. It feels like the team that cooled off the super team trend was the Suns a couple years ago.
Durant, Devin Booker, Bradley Beal, spending a lot, new owner, make a splash, declaring it a super team, and nothing happened.
And I think that cooled off the trend a bit.
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Chapter 5: How do Knicks fans feel about their team's performance this season?
Hi, Mike. What do you have for me today? Hey, good morning, Dan.
Thanks for taking my call. Appreciate it. I've got two things for you. As far as the word that you're looking for, it reminds me of a chess match. When somebody knows they're not going to win, there's no way they can. They don't play out the entire thing. They shake their opponent's hand and they concede. It's a little bit more noble of a word.
Okay. So conceding while still playing.
Chapter 6: What historical context does Reggie Miller provide about the Knicks?
Okay. So the Cavaliers conceded last night. Jay in Delaware. Hi, Jay. What do you have for me?
Hey, Dan. Hope you fellas had a great Memorial Day weekend. Two points. I think Mitch Johnson and Mike Brown both have done a master class in coaching this year. They've done, to me, what load management should be. You look at Wendy. He got above the 65-game threshold. Still, his fans got to see him most nights.
But he only averaged, I think, about 20 to 22 minutes per game through the regular season. So in the playoffs, he's been able to play longer. I think he's averaged around 28 to 30 minutes a game in the playoffs. So he's played a lot more minutes in the playoffs, which has helped the team immensely. And Mike Brown saw what Tibbs did last year and was like, I know what not to do.
Managed the minutes of the Stars a lot more. And they've also picked up their pace of play. Last year, it was all about Knicks trying to slow teams down. And they're outpacing teams this year in the playoffs.
Well, that's good stuff, Jay. Yeah, Thibodeau would famously grind his players down, and you get to the playoffs, you're not refreshed. This was something that Greg Popovich was so far ahead of everybody else. He wanted you ready for the playoffs. He wanted to win championships. He didn't care if you had the best record in the Western Conference. He did not care. I remember him saying that to me.
Because I thought, how important is the number one seed? He said, I want my guys healthy and ready to go. Rest, rest, rest. Mark in Ohio. Hi, Mark. Hey, Dan.
Just a quick question here.
I go all the way back to you. I'm 69, a year younger. And I remember when post players played the post. And I'm watching the Spurs. I've been a Spurs fan since Robinson and the whole dynasty thing. I'm watching Wimba Yama play, and I don't know how they're training him to be a post player at all. I think that's an addition to his game that has to come when you're 7'4".
I can remember McHale with the up-and-under move, Kareem with the skyhook. Everybody had a way to play the post. So if we've got Robinson and Duncan there helping him, Why isn't he playing any post play yet? I mean, maybe that's something that's going to come. Obviously, he's a unicorn, but it seems like the best way they get the ball to him in the post is to feed it to him at the foul line.
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Chapter 7: What are the statistics behind the Knicks' playoff performance?
They do. I didn't like body language. I know Harden is looking for an extension or a redo of his contract. They're going to have to look hard at that. I think they're going to look hard at Kenny Atkinson. Some of the decisions he made in game one, inexcusable. They're inexcusable. That can't happen. And I'm sure they'll look long and hard at this. This is what I would like.
I would like to see LeBron go home. I think that should be something that's on the table. Can the Cavaliers contact LeBron now? I don't know. I don't know what the free agent rules are. Yeah, the season's over. I don't know why they couldn't. I'm sure there will be preliminary conversations between Rich Paul and Cavs management. But that would be kind of cool.
I think that will be an option for LeBron. I think there's too much money that he'd leave behind. Probably. But if I'm the Cavs, I ask him, what do you want? I would give LeBron whatever he wants. But it goes back to they traded away Darius Garland, who's 10 years younger than James Harden. You got Harden, I'm guessing, for this moment, this time, and his track record is terrible.
It was disappointing.
Yeah.
It was disappointing to see James. Again, we all should have known better because of the track record you just alluded to. But it was disappointing to see because you're right, they brought him in for the playoffs to compete. Now again, he did help get them to the conference finals, but he wasn't playing great. He didn't play great in Toronto. He didn't play great in that Detroit series.
But he did help the team. It is a team game, and he did help the team get to the conference finals. But those four games were embarrassing. Because I don't like to use the word quit when it comes to professionals. If a fellow player or an opposition or a coach says we quit, fine.
I'm in no position to say you quit, but I don't know what word or words are applicable for me to say not somebody who played the game. Look, I will say this. Did Detroit quit in Game 7 versus Cleveland? at home. You can make a case that way. Did Cleveland quit in this series? You're right.
You and I, we're not in the huddles, we're not in practices, we're not on plane rides, bus rides, we don't know. You and I are talking about the optics of what we were seeing, and it looked like a team that didn't want to be there, and that's why you're going to have to tinker in the offseason with this roster. Talking to Reggie Miller. He'll be on the call. Mike Tirico, Jamal Crawford.
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Chapter 8: How does the Knicks' roster compare to other teams in the finals?
He knows that. He knows. But thumb fires burn deep. Come on. But if you want to be hated by Jordan, don't you want to be the number one guy hated by Jordan? Do you think I would be the number one guy hated by him? No, no. No, I think he has other guys. Yeah.
Dude, hey.
that's six hundred zero if you're going to be a problem with these guys they have more than you were probably but it is doing tell and i have nothing i have nothing to do is that we like the horn was looking at that he's looking at me like you have said i'll go to court but you've got no fight with him though what's that means nothing to him nothing that everything meant something to him
Nothing. I guarantee he probably doesn't know my name by now. Oh, will you stop? He probably doesn't know my name by now. Have fun tonight. Let's go. Game 5, 2-2, swing game. Are you kidding me? Oh, by the way, push-off anniversary today. What push-off? What push-off? When you assaulted Greg Anthony. Or Michael Jordan, I should say. That's the push-off anniversary of you and Mike.
Look, did he push off on Brian Russell? Yes. He did? Yeah. Okay, then maybe it is a push-off anniversary. Because if you said no... Statute of limitations. That's right. No, Mike pushed off. Absolutely. Okay, that's the point with SGA. That's what people get upset about because SGA has that move where he creates space, right? And people say he's pushing off. No, he's creating space.
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