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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 3 – What the People Wanted, Jim Jackson

02 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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5.228 - 21.808 Jonas Brothers

Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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22.088 - 33.261 Jonas Brothers

Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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33.629 - 52.937 Timbo (from Sports Slice)

Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports, and giving you the real story behind the headlines. And we're going straight to the source

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52.917 - 68.563 Timbo (from Sports Slice)

the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more, follow TimboSlicelife12 and the TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

68.763 - 78.737 Michelle McPhee

I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on. A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman.

79.278 - 84.405 Jonas Brothers

Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud.

84.746 - 98.365 Michelle McPhee

But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Chapter 2: What are the highlights of the NBA Finals matchup?

446.534 - 469.842 Jonas Brothers

It's tough to keep your weight down and lose weight, no matter what age you are. I would say, though, eliminate some things that are just wasteful. These are very obvious, like soda. That's empty, empty calories. Eating past 8 o'clock is... At night. Yeah, that's bad news. Well, we do have a bunch of snacks around here. We just got a snack delivery.

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470.023 - 470.584 Dan Patrick

Yeah.

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470.704 - 472.506 Jonas Brothers

Fritos were the healthiest thing.

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472.526 - 492.295 Dan Patrick

Fritos, there's Ruffles, there's Skittles, there's M&Ms. There's all kinds of, and you know, the big German's the one who orders all this stuff. And is that Ray opening up the drawer there? Yeah, we're stocked up. Yeah, we are. It looks like a bunker.

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492.612 - 499.71 Jonas Brothers

Yeah, well, Eric just likes to lob a grenade in the back there and see us all just go, all right, I guess I'll have some Chex Mix for breakfast.

499.731 - 515.248 Dan Patrick

I know. We got Chex Mix. Yes. So we got all kinds of goodies that just got delivered yesterday. Okay, we'll get to more phone calls coming up. Interesting day for the NFL. They did it again. Here we are, ready. NHL Stanley Cup playoffs.

Chapter 3: How did last night's controversial call affect the NBA playoffs?

515.328 - 542.885 Dan Patrick

You got the NBA finals, and then all of a sudden it's June 1st, and now we have some movement. We've talked a lot about A.J. Brown going to the Patriots, and there has to be friction behind the scenes between Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown. Has to be. Because that was just a, I'm out of here. I'm out of here. Everybody knows I'm out of here. And I'm going to be reunited with Mike Vrabel.

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543.89 - 568.114 Dan Patrick

And then you had... Miles Garrett being traded, which I'm not shocked. I'm shocked that it didn't happen earlier. And then you're always curious, what are you getting in return for somebody like Miles Garrett? And Jared Verse, who I believe is from Ohio, he goes to the Cleveland Browns, and he's a good player. Young player, 25, on a rookie deal, and you're going to get draft picks.

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568.702 - 593.528 Dan Patrick

I think the Browns have done pretty well drafting, and that's the key. You can have draft picks. That doesn't mean you're going to build your roster. You've got to have somebody who knows what they're doing, and I think they've done a pretty good job here in recent years. Now you have the Deshaun Watson situation. I mean, five years ago, he had like 33 touchdown passes and five interceptions.

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594.419 - 622.087 Dan Patrick

And we're like, okay, he's going to be in that top five list. Then all of a sudden, what happened? Personal life. Cleveland overpays. And he gets hurt. Gets hurt again. But I think if Shador Sanders was truly a number one quarterback, then they wouldn't be pushing this Deshaun Watson narrative. Because it feels like there's a, hey, Deshaun Watson.

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622.367 - 644.701 Dan Patrick

Like if Shador is going to separate himself, then maybe that's when you say to Deshaun Watson, why don't you help develop Shador Sanders? This kind of feels like somebody's got to be our quarterback. And it might be Deshaun Watson. At least that's the indication right now that he's the leader in the clubhouse. Yeah, Paul.

644.982 - 654.244 Jonas Brothers

Going back to what Louis Riddick was saying, he said the Browns are in this constant cycle of develop a player, let them go, build for the future. There's no current for them.

655.118 - 683.337 Dan Patrick

Yeah, but I think that they do have some younger players. They did make the Travis Hunter trade. And look, Shador Sanders fell in their lap. If he is a franchise quarterback, you've got him at a very, very low price. Now is when you've got to have smart people, and you've got a new head coach in there as well, Todd Munkin. Hadn't been a head coach. That's tricky. Going to be tricky.

683.519 - 706.344 Dan Patrick

And in that division, you know Cincinnati and Baltimore are going to be competitive. Good. Pittsburgh is going to be Pittsburgh. And maybe Cleveland just looks at this and says, hey, not tanking. Let's just not try to win a lot. That's the new way to go about it. We're not tanking. We're just trying not to win a lot. Yeah, Paul.

706.565 - 712.778 Jonas Brothers

I went to the Browns' website. They have no depth chart listed. None. Most teams have a general depth chart.

Chapter 4: What insights does Jim Jackson provide about the Knicks and Spurs series?

780.537 - 806.288 Dan Patrick

They weren't the healthier team, but they did have home court advantage. But Chet Holmgren has to figure out... Do you want to be great? Because he's going to make $41 million next year. Do you want to be a career sidekick? Now, he was third-team All-NBA, and he was runner-up to Wemby Defensive Player of the Year. I didn't think that he was good enough to be All-NBA.

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806.69 - 833.271 Dan Patrick

I don't think he's a guy who can take over. I just don't get that feeling. But you've got to want to take over. You've got to want to be aggressive. That's your home court. It's game seven. I want you scraping, scrapping, clawing, bleeding. Because Wemby wanted it. And that's weird to say somebody wants it more than you do, but it was really obvious there.

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834.196 - 852.679 Dan Patrick

I don't want to move on from Chet Holmgren. There are quite a few analysts I've heard yesterday on the mothership. Oh, he's played his last game. No, he hasn't. Not in no case yet. I wouldn't move on from him. But I would want to know who Chet Holmgren is moving forward.

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852.699 - 869.839 Dan Patrick

And it may sound strange to say that, but when you thought you knew, and then all of a sudden you get in a moment like that, and then you realize maybe he's not who we thought he was. Now's when you have to hit the reset button and say, Chet, do you want to be great? Are you willing to be great?

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871.76 - 888.356 Marv

Yes, Mark. But I think this might be a big overreaction. I just think he had a bad game. They won the NBA title last year with him, and they won two big Game 7s. Game 7 in the finals and then Game 7 against Joker and the Nuggets. So it might be just a big overreaction to just a really bad game.

888.637 - 895.103 Marv

We just can't say we're just going to move on from you or we're going to question whether you want to win because he's done that before. He's already proven it.

895.844 - 924.196 Dan Patrick

Yeah, I think it's an overreaction, but I... There has to be, there's something there that happened in game seven. That's undeniable. You didn't have a shot in the second half. That can't happen. You can't be benched. What is going on? This isn't a game in November. It's game seven. That's the thing that is alarming to me. The stakes could not have been higher.

924.817 - 935.811 Dan Patrick

You're playing against a guy who hates you. You're the defending NBA champs. Come on. Give me something. Yeah, Dylan.

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Do you think maybe he was just trying to get Wemby to like him, so he laid an egg? It's a classic myth.

Chapter 5: How does Chet Holmgren's performance impact the OKC Thunder's future?

2396.683 - 2421.459 Jim Jackson

And the reason why is because, not because the Six, I mean, the Knicks beat them 2-1 during the season. It's a matchup thing. Now, listen. I mean, OKC has already dealt with, Garden Anthony Edwards already dealt with SGA. They're going to plug him, send multiple guys at him, force other players like Alex Caruso and... Mitchell, if he would have played, to make shots.

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2421.479 - 2440.96 Jim Jackson

So that means Josh Hart, who Wimby probably is going to start on, is going to have to make shots. But what I love about this New York team, they're big across the board, you know, with Mitchell Robinson inside and Cat outside. But across their wings with OG and also Mikael Bridges and Josh, they have size. San Antonio's not a big team.

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2441.661 - 2460.629 Jim Jackson

Outside of Wimby, they're not big in Luke Cornett, who comes in. So those double teams, when they come and get Jalen in the middle of the court, now you have bigger guys receiving the ball in the middle with OG and McHale that can make play. I just think that gives them a strategical advantage that the other teams didn't have.

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2461.551 - 2473.723 Jim Jackson

And that's why I like the Knicks, defensively, offensively, because of that size that they have. that can, I think, negate some of that aggressive defensive nature that San Antonio will employ.

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2474.193 - 2476.515 Dan Patrick

Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us.

2477.076 - 2477.977 Jim Jackson

You got it, brother.

2478.077 - 2489.149 Dan Patrick

Enjoy it, man. That's Jim Jackson, Fox NBA college basketball analyst and the Clippers lead analyst as well. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow after this.

2489.469 - 2496.556 Jonas Brothers

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Chapter 6: What strategies do the Knicks need to employ against the Spurs?

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2502.205 - 2503.607 Unknown

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?

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2503.627 - 2524.81 Jonas Brothers

We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

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2525.231 - 2544.995 Jonas Brothers

I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and... Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

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And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

2567.424 - 2578.399 Jonas Brothers

Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

2578.548 - 2584.175 Unknown

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

2584.996 - 2591.384 Jonas Brothers

Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

2591.404 - 2607.808 Michelle McPhee

Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back.

Chapter 7: How do player dynamics influence the NBA Finals predictions?

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Guaranteed human.

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