Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What does Daniel Jeremiah think about Fernando Mendoza as the No. 1 pick?
I think he's better than that.
Okay, but how much of this is his talent? How much of this is his story?
I still think it's his talent. I mean, he's going to go to bed tonight at 6'5", 240 pounds. I mean, that's not a story. That's a fact. Like, he is a big, strong dude who, if you just look at the stuff that you can't really debate, he's got the size. He's got the physical and mental toughness. I think we can all agree on that. He's been great late in games. He's been great inside the red zone.
The bigger the game, the bigger the moment, the better he played. Like, all that stuff is all true. Now, we can say there's some things he can improve on, and like anybody else, he needs some development. But that's a pretty good point.
to start from i was impressed with him when we talked to him on monday he's a ceo and when he says to you i went back and looked at every single kurt cousins throw in minnesota yeah because he's been compared i compared him to kurt cousins and people are like why why would you do that i go I would sign up for Kirk Cousins' career. If I'm the Raiders and with Mendoza, I also said Joe Flacco.
If I could have that career, longevity at that pick, quality, face of the franchise, I think we want him to be Mahomes or Josh Allen, and he's not.
No, there's only a couple of those guys that come around. So to me, he's a winning quarterback. And you think about Cousins, there was a stretch, I don't know, Dan, probably six years where everybody would agree Kirk Cousins is anywhere from like 7th to 12th. He's like the 7th or 12th best quarterback in the league, and they're winning games and going to the playoffs.
I think the Raiders would sign up for that in a heartbeat.
Jerry Jones always throws out something cryptic that they could be moving up, and if they do, it's probably defense here. But is there anybody else that you see where you go, they're going to be a mover, they're coming up? Because every draft, it feels like there's five to seven trades in average in the last 10 years in the first round.
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Chapter 3: What stories does Bill Cowher share about avoiding fans after losses?
I still wouldn't sleep on, you know, as we get a little bit further on in the draft. I'd look at a guy like Carson Beck. That could be an option here for the Steelers.
You get nervous when you go on the draft?
No, because I got a buddy that's been in broadcasting for a long time that always texts me during the draft.
He always does. It's very unprofessional of me to do that.
I love it. It's our tradition. He always sends me a nice text.
I know, I know. I think I basically say, don't screw up. That's my motivation.
It's funny. It's just so encouraging. It just says, shut up, all caps, exclamation point, exclamation point.
Does your father, who is a minister? Yeah. How does he, has he helped you in your presentation of how you can, you know, he's talking to a congregation. Yeah. You're talking to a bigger audience.
Yeah, he's helped me. I remember the first time I went on television, I was in a studio in Orange County, and I was doing something with ESPN. The first time you're looking into a camera and not a person, Dan, and it was on, and my eyes were going, and my dad was nice as can be. He was like, hey, we have some cameras at the church.
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Chapter 4: What concerns does Kirk Herbstreit have about the expanded College Football Playoff?
And so we would drive through the parking lot, and it was really kind of a neat drive there. And then on the way home, usually we had to wait for the doctors to give us a report. And so we would be sitting there, and certainly it was a lot better atmosphere after a win than it was after a loss. But we would kind of let the crowd go, and then we would drive back up 28, go back to Fox Chapel.
It was about a 20-minute drive from the stadium.
What happens, though, after a loss and you're pulling over for gas?
Well, I wouldn't get gas on game day. So, I mean, my gas came, like, during the course of the week. If I go in on a Tuesday... You know, drop the kids off. You know, if we win, I just drop the kids off, go by the gas station. But if we lost, honestly, as I got around here more often, I'd wait till Tuesday night. So on my way back, self-serve around 1145, 12 o'clock at night.
Because if you go in there during the day, everyone just tells you, you know, you're throwing the ball way too much. You're not playing very good defense. Why don't you try this? I got a lot of suggestions along the way. And, you know, and I just am very respectful of the people here. This is a very knowledgeable fan base. and very passionate fan base. And they kind of take things personal.
As you know about Pittsburgh, as you can get around here, it's very territorial. You know, I grew up on the other side of that hill right there, about four miles from the stadium, a place called Crafton, Pennsylvania. And you learn very quickly as you look around here that it's a city with a lot of communities connected by bridges, but there's a proud element of your community that you represent.
And so you understand that it does become a little territorial and becomes personal. And I kind of took that philosophy in my way of talking about games each week and trying to make every game personal because I grew up that way here.
Was there any part of you that said, I don't want to screw up this franchise? Like, I'm a local. I'm honored, but I might be the guy who doesn't do well here and let everybody down.
Oh, yeah. Like, yeah, that happens a lot. You know, I got the job. I was 34 years old, and I'll never forget. I remember I was in Kansas City, and I came in with my wife, and we went back. I remember laying in bed that night. I said, wow. If I don't screw this up, in three years I can go back to my 20th high school class reunion at Carlington High School being the head coach of my hometown team.
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Chapter 5: How did Kurt Warner feel about training Fernando Mendoza?
So, you know, my dad was that guy. He was a Pittsburgher through and through. I mean, he'd sit in the kitchen and listen to Modern Cope on the games. Oh, yeah. You know, listen to him at night on the talk radio. He was a true sports lover. Didn't play it. He loved baseball more than anything. Yeah. Yeah, we had a special family.
He's Bill Cowher, the Hall of Famer. We've asked this question the first 90 minutes of the program. You could draft anybody. Number one, start a franchise. But you don't get, like if you get Jerry Rice, you don't get Joe Montana. If you get Tom Brady, you don't get Bill Belichick, etc. So, number one overall pick, no matter what era.
Well, I was in here earlier and listen to your show, and a gentleman from Cleveland made a statement about Jim Brown. He was a pretty special player, pretty special individual. But I think you have to start with the quarterback position, to be quite frankly.
And honestly, I think Tom Brady, to me, going against him for all the years, I'm not saying that Joe Montana wasn't a product of the system, but he had a lot of good people around him. I watched Tom Brady grow as a player. And his ability to try to defend him, him and Peyton Manning were very similar, but I thought Tom was just that he had a more accurate arm, I thought, at times.
But I think him and Peyton Manning, to me, were two guys that were the face of your franchise. No one would work harder. They knew what preparation was all about. They didn't get flustered in the highest of stress situations. They led by example. And I think those two guys, to me, Brady... And to Peyton Manning, I think to me are the two guys.
Yeah, I would probably say John Elway. I think he did more individually than those two did. The other ones were probably, Tom was a better quarterback. If I take away quarterback and I say any other position.
I'm gonna say Lawrence Taylor. Okay. I had the opportunity to coach Derek Thomas. as we're on the same time frame. And Lawrence Taylor, to me, he could wreak havoc in a game. He was one of the most disruptive players at his time in the game today.
I would say Reggie White, although I did get to see Lawrence Taylor when I was in New York covering the Giants. And I always tell people there's speed when you're watching on TV and then there's in the moment speed when you're standing on the sidelines. And it's completely different. Like, I can't imagine, you know, we can see everything unfold.
everybody's an expert but when you see it on the sidelines and you're going I don't know how it's so quick yeah Lawrence Taylor got around the end immediately created a position yeah he was the first edge rusher that we labeled you know I just you think about
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Chapter 6: What insights does Daniel Jeremiah share about the NFL Draft process?
I mean, no, no. I would just like to let you keep thinking I'm going to tackle you. I like that. You can walk around. You can walk on eggshells the rest of your life, but I will always be following you. I told you if I came to Pittsburgh, I'm going to be on your show. And I'm a man of my word.
My head is always on a swivel.
Yes. No, you're good. You're good. I enjoy our talks through the course of the season because the one thing I do get to talk about with you is more of the philosophical approach to some of the things that are taking place. I love the National Football League. I feel like on my platform at CBS, being kind of a guardian of the game, I like to call bullshit if I have to do it periodically.
And sometimes I think that we get caught up in the... what we perceive, what we want it to look like, as opposed to just doing the right thing. And Mr. Rooney used to always say this. I'll leave you one last story. Dan Rooney, at times, I would talk to him on a Friday afternoon. Everybody's out of the building.
I'm in there just preparing my last little bit for my meeting the next day, that next night. And I'd say, Dan, hey, listen, I just want you to know, like, I may... pull the quarterback this week. I don't like the way he's practiced. I don't like the way he's been playing. I'm not sure he's into this. And I said, that's what I want you to know beforehand so that you're not blindsided by this.
And he would just say, like, okay, like, were you going to dinner? And I said, well, like, we're going to dinner at the club. He goes, well, have the girls got anything this week? I go, the girls are fine. I said, I just want to make sure you know about this quarterback thing. He'd turn, he'd walk around, he'd walk away. I'm like, did I say something to offend him? Like, he would stop at the door.
He would look back. He said, coach, Just do the right thing. And they would walk away and go, well, that didn't help. But you know what, though? You know what it was? Understand the consequences of the choices you make. Are you doing it for one person, or are you doing it for the team?
Are you worried about hurting someone's feelings, or do you think sometimes that has to happen in course of having personal growth, which will give us, substantially, team growth? So, just doing the right thing sometimes is not the easiest thing to do, and sometimes the easiest thing to do isn't always the right thing to do.
I'm ready to run through a wall for you.
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Chapter 7: How does Kurt Warner compare his Super Bowl wins and losses?
I'm talking Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing... We get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross.
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He is a friend of the show, Kirk Herbstreet, and his dog, Peter, the ESPN College Football Analyst and Lead Analyst for Thursday Night Football. You can see Kirk tonight on College Game Day at 5 Eastern on the Mothership. ABC's coverage of the draft beginning at 8 Eastern. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbstreet and his dog, Peter. What's up, man? How we doing? What's up, man? How are you?
What's up, buddy? Come on. Here he comes. Oh, man.
Here he comes. Good boy.
We didn't get him a chair like we did at the draft. He's looking for his chair. You come up here. I'm sorry, Petey. You come up here.
There you go. Come up here. Come on.
Come on.
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Chapter 8: What advice does Bill Cowher give to Mike Tomlin about broadcasting?
I mean, I think it's beautiful, and it's great to see, because when I grew up, the Pirates, you know, we are family. It was a big deal, the Pirates baseball, and it's great to see Skeens and Reynolds and, you know, this rookie Griffin. It's neat to see they have a nucleus, and they're winning games. And so they invited us over, and all I can think about is,
They're going to ask me to collaborate on this as I'm taking pictures. Reds fans are going to be yelling at me. It's like, what can you do? We were just honored to be over there and take some photos.
Well, you try to tell people what a real rivalry used to be, and that was the Big Red Machine and the Pirates. Man, it was good. And then you throw in the Dodgers back then. Oh, my gosh. That was so good. It felt like every year was coming down to the Pirates against the Big Red Machine.
Willie Stargell and Phil Garner and Tim Foley and Bill Madlock and Easler, Mike Easler, Omar Marino, Dave Parker, Ott behind the plate. I mean, that group seems like in those days they were together for seven, eight, nine years. Well, you could stay together.
Yeah, yeah. But, you know, Rennie Stennett.
Yeah, yeah.
I think they ā Gene Alley. I go back to Gene Alley in short stuff. Yeah, yeah. You know, growing up in the late 60s, early 70s. Yeah, fun times. And to be able to watch those rivalries. And we were just talking about Roberto Clemente. Somebody brought me a bottle of wine from the Clemente Museum. And I remember, you know, when you watch certain athletes and you go, that's different.
And I remember Clemente, his batting stance, the way he ran, but his arm. His arm was incredible. Yeah. It might have been the greatest arm I ever saw. Now, Parker was up there. Yeah.
But Parker was such a big, imposing athlete.
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