The Determined Society with Shawn French
From Playboy Bunny to Reality TV Star: Shanice Henderson's Untold Story | Exclusive Interview
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Get ready for an engaging episode of The Determined Society with Shawn French as he sits down with the dynamic Shanice Henderson from Bravo’s Summerhouse: Martha's Vineyard. Discover her journey from sports and sales to reality TV and the ups and downs that come with being in the public eye. Shanice opens up about her experiences, including how she navigates social media criticism, copes with mental health challenges, and the unexpected moments that shaped her life. Tune in for a candid conversation filled with personal insights, laughter, and a dose of inspiration. Whether you're a fan of reality TV or looking to hear from a resilient and ambitious individual, this episode is a must-watch! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Shanice Henderson?
I have my new friend, Shanice Henderson with me. She's from the Summer House at Martha's Vineyard, correct? Yes. On Bravo, season one and two or just season two? Season one and two. Season Season one and two. Part-time, season one, full-time, season two. Okay, okay. And we're pulling for a season three because she's an amazing human being.
And we're here in the studio now at Exposure Studios in Naples, Florida, and we were just at the Omni play in Pickleball, but thanks for not embarrassing me. Right. Well... Well, I did. You did? A little bit. I swung and missed a couple times. I didn't feel completely like a fish out of water. I felt like I play one more time and I'm fucking you up. Like I got you.
We'll see. I got you. We'll see next time. It was fun though. It was actually a lot of fun. It was fun. I had a great time.
It was great. But, Dee, thank you so much for coming down. You're welcome. You had a long drive today. I did. And we've had a good morning. But I'm just excited to share who you are and your story with the audience. So for those of you that don't know Shanice, she was born in North Dakota. South Dakota. South Dakota. Not North Dakota.
I know. It's in Dakota. So tell everybody about you growing up and what you were into and just kind of your journey.
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Chapter 2: What was Shanice's experience growing up in South Dakota?
So I'm from South Dakota, born and raised. I played sports all my life. So I played basketball, ran track. What else did I play? Softball, tennis, soccer, every sport you could probably, hockey. I played hockey. I was a goalie. Hold on, stop, stop. You were a goalie? Yes. I was the only girl. Let's talk clearly. You could have been on the Mighty Ducks.
Yeah. No, I was actually, I wasn't great, but I wanted to try it. And I actually played hockey instead of basketball. Interesting.
Chapter 3: How did sports shape Shanice's life?
Third grade. Wow. Yes. Okay, so this is an interesting thing because I've also done a lot of background on you and we've had a lot of great conversations over the last few weeks. You're very strong mentally. And so did hockey play a part in that? Did sports play a part in that?
I wouldn't say hockey did, but definitely sports. It helps. I feel like anytime you play sports, it helps you in the long run because you're with a team, you know, you're working with people. It's just, and I was a point guard playing basketball. So I'm, I'm a leader. So I like telling people what to do. Like, I feel like I have the power and being like, no, we're running this play.
We're not doing that. You're doing this. You're doing that. So I like that.
it's an interesting angle because like, you know, a lot of people, when we talk about sports, right. And this, we talk a lot about on the, on the show and I'm glad we're going down this road right away is, you know, sports changed my life. Right. Playing just the game of baseball got me places and right. And in rooms and meeting people that I would never meet.
And to, to a point, like, I think the brand, right. Or the show is, if I wasn't an athlete and have that credibility, I don't know what this would even been. Exactly. But then you got a lot of people like, hey, it's just not sports. No, it truly is. Like you learn a lot about life. What did sports teach you about life?
Honestly, just seeing different things, culture, like even for AAU, I traveled so much to where I was seeing like what is in each state because living in South Dakota, it's so, it's closed. Like you don't know really what's going on in different states. So just seeing like different cultures, it is a culture shock, just going to different places.
But it just, it made me a more, I would say a riskier person taking risks. Like I moved to LA when I was 23. And I think Playing sports helped me do that. Just being like a leader and just being like trusting myself more and just moving to LA by myself, moving to New York by myself, living by myself with no parents around me.
So I feel like that just made me a very, like very mentally strong person.
Yeah, it's a really good point, right? Because you're talking about risks as it pertains to, you know, being a leader, a point guard, an athlete and taking certain risks in your life that normally people wouldn't take. And it's funny because I find I take a lot of risks that even sometimes a wife is like, dude, what are you doing? But like my mind just works in a way of like.
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Chapter 4: What challenges did Shanice face in Los Angeles?
And then I was dating somebody, but he lived in a leper state. He played in the NFL and that was a mess. Kind of want the tea on that. I don't want to touch on that.
Yeah. So that happened and it was just, I was lonely, but I did it for six months and I just decided, I was like, you know what? I don't like this. Girls are very catty out there. They're not the nicest. It was hard to meet friends. It was just, it wasn't fun. Yeah. And I did the modeling thing. I was making money, but it was not like...
income coming in all the time so i was stressed out about that it just it wasn't for me so money creates stress but yeah so you were a playboy but yes i missed april yes i didn't know that yeah 2014 2014 yeah 2014 so this april 2014 right here so i mean that's interesting to me right and we touched on a little bit we were playing pickleball but what was that experience like
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Yeah.
It was a lot. I mean, I saw a lot. It was fun though. It opened up a lot of doors. And I think that also helped me with my confidence too. And being like, oh, like I am pretty, you know, like, okay. Like, cause when I grew up, I like grew up, I had glasses.
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Chapter 5: What was it like being a Playboy Bunny?
I wasn't, I didn't think I was the cutest anyways, but like, and then I had braces and a retainer and like, you know, the whole space in my, in between my teeth. You had the space. Yeah. A space, a huge gap. Like, so I feel like, Playboy helped me just with my confidence in like becoming who I am today. And I love being around people and that I had to be around people all the time.
Playboy because I'm doing like serving. We used to work at parties at the mansion and I would go up and we'd be servers. So I was serving different celebrities at parties and you can't just be like shy going up. Like, Hey, like, how are you? So that helped me with that. And that's why I'm in sales today.
So like, I feel like my whole life kind of like all my experiences just kind of like add up and they're just all in one now. And I'm like a people person and like, I love being around people. But if you think about what I grew up in, obviously like, it's just, it's weird how things like, Dude, that's badass. Right? Like, I'm like, huh. You know what? I've been doing this my whole life.
I fucking love introspective people like you because it's like that moment, that six months in L.A., Miss April 2014. You know, there's people that will look at them like, oh, yeah, no, that's not. But that helped you.
It helped me with my confidence. It helped me, like, be outgoing. I wasn't this outgoing. No? No. In high school and, like. Call it, hell no, no. That's crazy. No, I was so quiet. My basketball coach in high school used to call me shy because I wouldn't talk to him. Really? I would not say a word to him. They thought that something was wrong with me.
Why did she talk to me? There might be. I mean, there might be, of course. Of course, there's always something. There's like a thousand things wrong with me. Right, there's a lot of things wrong with me. We'll get to that next segment, yeah.
When I was younger, he was like, what? Why is she talking like what? Like, I was just so shy. Yeah. And like the way I would like make the plays in my head, I would just like I would just watch it and just do it. But I wouldn't say anything to him. So more introverted back then.
Yeah, I was like, OK, and I'll just do it. And then he's like, what is wrong with her? I'm calling her shy. But like now I'm like. Yep, yep.
That's so cool. It just shows. It just shows, yeah. You know, I always like to educate the audience, like for people listening or watching right now is stepping out of your comfort zone, right? And doing something that others may feel is like, okay, not for them and may judge, but at the same time, like it could enrich your whole life. In your life, it helped you. It shaped who you are. Mm-hmm.
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Chapter 6: How has reality TV impacted Shanice's mental health?
If they put my ass in a house for a month with a bunch of my homies, baseball friends. It's going to go down. Dude, even my business partners. Yeah. Even my boys at Grit. It would be... That's what I'm saying. Like, don't do that. What do you do in a house full of your friends for a month?
I would be the villain. I would be the villain. I'm the crazy one. They would catch me saying some dumb shit. And you forget the cameras are even there sometimes, which is not a good thing sometimes. I bet.
Because you'll forget and be like, fuck, that's not a camera. Fuck, they're going to use that. Actually, I farted once on camera. Did you? Yes, and they got it. Oh, no. I thought it was going to be silent. I'm sitting there eating chips. I'm lactose intolerant, and I was eating cheese chips, and I was like, fuck. I was like, oh, my God, I have to fart. And then you farted on camera.
And it was loud. they put that on i was like oh god did it did it smell though no it didn't it did not thank god thank god could you imagine i know and everyone's like you fart in public and you and you on camera i was like right no that'd be the killer it was just like an air i know but i forgot the cameras were there and i was like God dang it. And they used it.
That sucked up. And they used it. That sucked up. Yeah. Is anything sacred? No. Is anything sacred anymore? Well, I mean, hey, at least people know you fart.
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Chapter 7: What lessons has Shanice learned from social media?
Yeah, right? I'm like, well, that's out. Dude. I fart. That's some funny ass shit. Literally. Yeah. What I was going to ask you is, you know, all these experiences, yes, you live a normal life. You're a normal human being. Right. Right. Surprisingly. Surprisingly. The farter over here. Yeah.
this is such a fun it's such a fun job it's like this is my life really this is my fucking life um but like i i think like a big part of being a public figure um what i'm starting to learn um in my early journey what three and a half four years in is there's massive mental health that is tied to or lack thereof sometimes you know when when we're dealing with all this stuff so like
Going on the show, having the world perceive you as something other than who you truly are. How did that affect you? And how did you overcome those things?
Well, I'm not gonna lie. I was pretty depressed after like my first season just because people judge so much. And I'm like, what? Like, you don't even know me. Like, I'm not even that person. Like, you have no idea. Like, the story about like my ex and I don't really. Can you tell me the story? I don't know the story. I actually don't like talking about it. Don't talk about it.
You brought it up. Don't talk about it. I did. But, like, just even that situation, people would judge me based off that. And I'm like, what? Like, you don't even know the real story. So, like, that and then it's just, like, people would just judge from TV. And I'm like, you don't know me. So, just, like, even, like, the comments, I try not to read them.
I always put my comments on, like, I just don't even go on social media when, like, our show airs. So that's helped me a lot. That's good. And I've been through so much, I feel like, in my life. It kind of helped my mental health. Like, even, like, the Playboy thing. Like, I've had people call me a slut hoe. Like, all this stuff.
And I feel like just doing that and, like, going through that kind of helped me get through this situation. Just because I'm like, just ignore it. Don't read it. I used to work at Hooters. And, like, people, guys would say the craziest things. Oh, I bet.
Yeah. And so, honestly... It affected my mental health. I'm not going to lie. Like I was kind of like, even after airing, I get like PTSD from like cameras and stuff. And like, I feel like people are like following me because we get followed all day. And I feel like people are watching me. So I'll sit in my room for like a week after filming and just like not do anything.
And not talk to anyone. Yeah. That's like the detoxifying. Right. Yeah. So I'm just like. It's my cleanse.
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Chapter 8: What can we expect from Season 3 of Summer House?
That's all it is, dude. Because like they see you as somebody bigger than life, larger than life because you're on TV and you have a good platform on social media. And, you know, people give a shit about you. Yeah. And so I did a video with my production team, probably like not even a year ago. It was about if you think baseball is boring. It's not the sport for you. And I go, Olaf.
And the fucking trolls came out, dude. Oh, God. And like, oh, fuck this guy. He doesn't even know what he's talking about. I'm just like, yeah, I guess I was kind of wrong, dude. I think pitch clock is okay. Yeah.
And then they come back like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, hey, dude, it's cool, man. You don't, you don't look at me as a person and then you comment and you say some shit and I come back to you with empathy and then they follow me. Right. And they're like, okay, there's a new, there's a new fan. Yep.
Like, right. So like I was telling you earlier today about the marriage video I did, I thought I was going to get killed for that video and I did not. Right. And I told Mike, I didn't, I was scared. I'm scared to put this out. Yeah.
Remember I was like, I, talking to my production team, it's raw and unedited. I'm going to do it. But like, I was like, dude, I don't want to put this out. I was like, bro, like, pretty much said, we're fucking putting it out. Yeah.
It's good. And it was true. And I got one piece of hate on TikTok. Of course it was TikTok. TikTok, of course. It's always TikTok. And it was just like saying how it was, you know, promoting toxicity in a relationship and selling it as passion. Yeah. I said... I completely can understand how you would see that. That is not what I'm doing. See?
She didn't even respond. They just want you to like, fuck. Right.
You know, it's like, but to the point, like, yeah. And I think this message is important for the listeners because there's so many people right now listening to the show that don't understand how quickly the hate or the pressure from social media can come. And that's why... My kids are not having a phone until they're eighth grade. They're not getting social media. I'll get my kid a flip phone.
Fuck that. Right. I agree. Yeah, I mean, fuck. But it's like, but I also think there's a bright light in social media. Without social media, I'm not sitting here with you. Right. I mean, there's definitely positive things.
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