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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Brené Brown: We're In A Spiritual Crisis! The Hidden Epidemic No One Wants To Admit!

03 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 7.944 Brené Brown

You are the single most requested guest. And let me tell you, this has not been easy because we went to some hard places.

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Chapter 2: What shaped Brené Brown's perspective on vulnerability?

8.104 - 30.574 Brené Brown

But I don't think we'll ever talk about anything more important than this because it's not fear that gets in the way of us being brave with our lives and our work. It's the armor that we reach for to self-protect when we're afraid and how that armor moves us away from love, connection, and our values. And the hardest work is being aware of what is my armor when I'm afraid. Is that automatic?

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30.594 - 31.095 Brené Brown

Oh, no.

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Chapter 3: How do parents influence our understanding of love and connection?

31.155 - 31.776 Brené Brown

It's a training.

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31.756 - 32.859 Steven Bartlett

So let's start with that then.

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33.12 - 53.603 Brené Brown

Brene Brown is an icon whose world-leading research in shame, vulnerability and connection has inspired companies like Pixar, Google and the US special forces to build stronger leaders and help the everyday person unlock their full potential. Ready? Is vulnerability important? It is if we want to be brave with our lives. But we were raised to believe that vulnerability is weakness.

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53.843 - 63.059 Brené Brown

Like in my family, we were allowed anger, but sad was not an option. You needed to be tough. So when I get scared, when I feel anxious, disappointed. I'm just angry.

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Chapter 4: How can we overcome negative traits and improve self-esteem?

63.179 - 66.404 Brené Brown

And so when you're raised without vulnerability, it'll put you in jeopardy.

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Chapter 5: What are the four types of power in leadership?

66.845 - 86.033 Brené Brown

Like, you want to know what vulnerability is? Joy. Joy is so vulnerable that people choose to live disappointed rather than to get excited about something and risk getting sucker punched by disappointment. Like, there is no courage without vulnerability because courage is the willingness to show up and be all in when you cannot predict the outcome. Wow.

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86.153 - 87.415 Steven Bartlett

I've never thought about that before.

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87.435 - 89.459 Brené Brown

But you can develop skills.

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Chapter 6: How does social media impact our emotional well-being?

89.479 - 90.841 Steven Bartlett

Back at these four steps to courage.

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Chapter 7: What is the marble jar theory and how does it build trust?

90.961 - 91.162 Steven Bartlett

Yes.

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Chapter 8: What is the connection between vulnerability and courage?

91.542 - 96.771 Brené Brown

We've taken 165,000 people through this work that included how to build trust.

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97.272 - 102.02 Steven Bartlett

And I've heard about your marble jar theory. Could you explain to me what your marble jar... Look at how excited you are.

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103.383 - 109.333 Brené Brown

So this is how we teach trust to the most senior leaders in Fortune 100 companies. It's awesome.

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110.815 - 128.824 Steven Bartlett

Just give me 30 seconds of your time. Two things I wanted to say. The first thing is a huge thank you for listening and tuning into the show week after week. It means the world to all of us. And this really is a dream that we absolutely never had and couldn't have imagined getting to this place. But secondly, it's a dream where we feel like we're only just getting started.

128.804 - 143.667 Steven Bartlett

And if you enjoy what we do here, please join the 24% of people that listen to this podcast regularly and follow us on this app. Here's a promise I'm going to make to you. I'm going to do everything in my power to make this show as good as I can now and into the future.

143.967 - 150.998 Steven Bartlett

We're going to deliver the guests that you want me to speak to and we're going to continue to keep doing all of the things you love about this show. Thank you.

157.323 - 169.119 Steven Bartlett

In order to understand all the work that you have done and the perspective that you have on the world and also who you are as an anomaly in many respects, I think it's probably important that I understand your earliest context, where you've come from, what shaped you.

169.379 - 172.664 Brené Brown

I'm stuck on it. Am I an anomaly?

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