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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

No.1 Brain Scientist: My Brain Shut Down & I Realised Everything I Believed Was Wrong!

06 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What did Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor learn from her stroke experience?

0.031 - 4.277 Steven Bartlett

You've bought a present for me in this box, and I feel nervous and excited.

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4.297 - 8.403 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

So this is a human brain with a spinal cord.

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Chapter 2: How can understanding our brain improve our emotional control?

8.423 - 25.988 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Such a masterpiece. But what people don't know is that we have four different structured parts of our brain that automatically shape how we think, feel, and behave. But what if it's not unconscious? What if we could pick and choose how we want to be in any moment on purpose? Like we can manifest our own mental health.

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25.968 - 28.772 Steven Bartlett

And by the end of this conversation today, you're going to teach me how to do that.

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28.792 - 31.055 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Absolutely. You're going to so get it.

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Harvard neuroscientist Dr. Jill Bolte-Taylor has transformed how we understand the brain through her research and own traumatic experience. She's teaching the world how to unlock every part of their brain to regain control of their thoughts, emotions, and behavior.

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46.538 - 66.91 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

We have a problem. We are skewed as a society to the two parts of the left brain, which focuses on me, the individual. How do I fit myself into a society? And trauma is living in there, as is cravings and addiction. And we need this. It protects us. But we get in trouble when this is the only portion of our brain that we value. Because look at the world we currently live in.

66.89 - 69.994 Steven Bartlett

So is there a strategy for making sure that you don't act upon it?

Chapter 3: How does trauma affect our brain's functionality?

70.014 - 88.215 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Well, so many people are trying to get rid of their emotional reactivity, but the way to heal it is not to get rid of it. I mean, we're liars for this. Why do I want to just put myself in a little box and say, I don't want to have pain. I don't want to be mad. I want to be a robot. I don't want to be a robot. I want to be a whole human with a whole brain. Like, this is life.

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And it lasts this long, and then it's gone.

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And it took me losing the left side of my brain for eight years to realize just how precious this thing is.

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97.49 - 100.095 Steven Bartlett

So how do I control and protect my brain at all costs?

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Well, there's a lot. So you ready? I want some hot stuff.

108.048 - 125.955 Steven Bartlett

Just give me 30 seconds of your time. Two things I wanted to say. The first thing is a huge thank you for listening and tuning into the show week after week. It means the world to all of us. And this really is a dream that we absolutely never had and couldn't have imagined getting to this place. But secondly, it's a dream where we feel like we're only just getting started.

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And if you enjoy what we do here, please join the 24% of people that listen to this podcast regularly and follow us on this app. Here's a promise I'm going to make to you. I'm going to do everything in my power to make this show as good as I can now and into the future.

Chapter 4: What are the four personality types in our brain?

141.098 - 161.741 Steven Bartlett

We're going to deliver the guests that you want me to speak to and we're going to continue to keep doing all of the things you love about this show. Thank you. Dr. Jill Bolte-Taylor, what have you spent your professional career endeavouring to understand? And why does it matter?

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162.442 - 189.358 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

I am fascinated with how does our brain create our perception of reality? And based on that information, what a wonder it is any two of us can communicate at all. I think I am fascinated by what we are as biological creatures and And most of us are so consumed with everything outside of ourselves that we have missed the wonder of what we are as this biological conglomeration of cells.

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189.858 - 207.9 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

I think we're absolutely beautiful. You know, none of us came into this world with a roadmap about how to get it all right. And the roadmap is the brain cells. And when we understand the brain cells and what they do and how to work with them and how to keep them well, then we can manifest our own mental health.

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208.319 - 214.067 Steven Bartlett

And do you think the average person understands the brain? Did you understand the brain before you started studying it?

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214.688 - 238.502 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Well, I understood it because I had a brother who was diagnosed, would be diagnosed with a brain disorder, schizophrenia. So I became fascinated by 5 or 6 about what are we and why is he the way he is? We are so different from one another. Our interpretation of our experiences are so different from one another. What's What are we?

238.582 - 245.213 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

I just became a philosopher very young and fascinated with the biology and the anatomy of what we are.

Chapter 5: How can we effectively shift between the four brain characters?

245.253 - 255.91 Steven Bartlett

What do you think an understanding of the brain, the understanding that you're going to communicate to myself and my audience today, how do you think that can help me improve my life?

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256.126 - 281.752 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Oh, my goodness. If I understand what part of me interacts with the external world and is smart and is good with details and is well-organized, then I know how to use that part. We are skewed as a society to that left-thinking portion of our brain. In fact, as far as traditional medicine is concerned, that thinking portion of our brain is the only portion that is actually conscious.

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282.332 - 296.173 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

So then we live our lives literally with our left emotional tissue, our right emotional tissue, and our right thinking tissue all as part of our unconscious brain. But what if it's not unconscious?

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What if we actually know what those groups of cells also do so that when I'm experiencing my pain from the past, I can actually call on the portion of my brain that knows how to self-soothe me so that I can lift myself out of my pain, learn from those experiences, and then live a more fulfilled life.

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It's the power to choose who and how we want to be in the world when we understand what our choices are.

323.103 - 326.769 Steven Bartlett

Is it possible to choose which part of your brain to use in a certain moment?

326.789 - 347.422 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

You do it all the time. You're just probably not aware of it. Let's say you're going to have a business call and you got your stats and you got your data and you pick up the phone and you say, yes, this is Steve and blah, blah, blah. And you work into your details. And then let's say someone peeks in to, let's say a little dog comes running in. Okay.

347.622 - 365.428 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Well, you're going to have a couple of responses, potentially responses. One, you're going to smile, right? You just smiled. You just moved into, oh, I love my little fuzzy. And yeah, okay. Now, you know, now you're a little gentler because now you shifted into a different portion of your brain that is open to the present moment. And now you just got uplifted.

365.408 - 388.686 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

So we have these four different anatomically, neuroanatomically structured parts of our brain, and we can pick and choose who and how we want to be in any moment when we know what our choices are. But we don't know what our choices are as our society because we are functioning skewed to that left-thinking portion of our brain, and everything else is running on automatic.

Chapter 6: What lifestyle changes can enhance brain health?

388.706 - 391.45 Steven Bartlett

And the left-thinking portion of the brain is the more logical...

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391.463 - 412.206 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Logical, rational, analytical, likes to control people's places, things. There's a me definition, ego center of I exist. I am Jill Bolte-Taylor. This is my phone number. This is where I live. I know that this is where I begin and end, where my skin meets air because a group of cells tells me where I begin and end.

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412.186 - 434.433 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

But you've probably had flow moments where you were doing your sports or you were making love or you were whatever you were doing. And you didn't begin and end here. You were vast and open and you were this big energy ball that you are. But the left hemisphere focuses on that little group of cells and those skill sets and the right and the wrong and the good and bad.

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And that portion of the brain defines the social norm. And we all have to fit ourselves in the social norm. But it's only a quarter of our brain.

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Is it making us unhappy the way that we use our brain currently?

446.576 - 464.367 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Well, we're out of balance. We're completely out of balance because we're at the balance of the value of that left brain. What's going on in the right brain? The right brain is right here, right now. We spend so much of our time. So fundamental differences between the right hemisphere and the left hemisphere.

464.347 - 468.613 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

And I know this only because I lost my left hemisphere and that's all I had for eight years.

Chapter 7: What role do emotions play in our daily lives?

468.774 - 493.949 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

I had to use what I had currently going on in my right hemisphere after I lost those cells of the left hemisphere in order to rebuild the skill sets of the left brain so that I could become completely functional again. Are we unhappy? Well, that's not a happy part of the brain. When you're being analytical and organized and structured, you probably got that frown right there, you know?

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494.61 - 508.427 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

And it's a different expression than as soon as I said a little puppy comes in and then all of a sudden your face happens. Well, what happens is you're shifting into a different part of your brain. And that's what we do. We're running it on automatic.

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Chapter 8: How can we heal trauma and improve mental health?

508.407 - 517.707 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

So if we are running our brain on automatic, imagine how much better we might do if we were actually picking and choosing who and how we wanted to be on purpose.

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517.987 - 519.03 Steven Bartlett

And you're telling me that's possible?

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519.15 - 519.731 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Absolutely.

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519.751 - 522.758 Steven Bartlett

And by the end of this conversation today, you're going to teach me how to do that?

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522.778 - 540.546 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

Absolutely. You're going to so get it and it will. And once you see you... you will no longer ever not see you. And then you're going to see these four characters inside of yourself. And now you're going to be looking at your partner, who you speak about often, and you're going to be going, I recognize all four parts of her too.

540.887 - 561.212 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

But what that means is that any relationship that we have, there's eight of us. There's eight of us. Eight very specific personalities that in every relationship. So I have four very predictable character profiles, as do you. It's the way the anatomy of the brain is built.

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You've bought a present for me in this box.

565.081 - 565.381 Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor

I did.

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What is in that box?

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