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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to Corozant Technologies, home of the Digital Executive Podcast. Do you work in emerging tech, working on something innovative, maybe an entrepreneur? Apply to be a guest at www.corozant.com forward slash brand. Welcome to The Digital Executive. Today's guest is Duran Kemple.
Duran Kemple is the chairman and CEO of Bonn, where he leads the company's mission to redefine personal security through an AI-enabled preventative safety platform designed to protect individuals, families, and enterprises before incidents occur.
Under his leadership, Bonn has scaled a multidisciplinary organization combining advanced software systems, live operational command infrastructure, and human security expertise to deliver continuous proactive protection services across multiple geographies. Well, good afternoon, Duran. Welcome to the show.
Chapter 2: How did Doron Kempel's military experience shape his career in personal security?
Hey, Brian. Thank you for having me. Absolutely, my friend.
Chapter 3: What is Bond's unique approach to personal safety?
I appreciate it. I know you're based out of New York. I'm in Kansas City. So I appreciate you navigating time zones, calendars, et cetera, to be here. And Duran, if you don't mind, I'm going to jump into your first question.
You've had one of the more unconventional paths to the personal security space, a decade in Israel's elite special operations forces, then serial founder of two enterprise tech companies acquired by HPE and IBM, and now the CEO of Bond. What's the thread connecting all of those chapters and what ultimately drove you towards protecting individuals rather than enterprise infrastructure?
Great question. And I think that the part of it that perhaps is less intuitive to the audience is where it all starts. So I was very fortunate to be accepted to a military unit that gets assignments at the level of problems. In other words, at the level of a prime minister or head of the military, this unit is presented with certain problems.
And what the, of course, senior members of the unit need to do with the rest of the team is take initiative and innovation. These two words, those two I's seem to be the same thing, but they're different. Initiative doesn't require innovation.
But what you need to do in that particular unit is find a way to solve problems, problems that are worthy, worthy from a national security perspective and that are feasible. Feasibility has to do with operational complexity, technology, budget, etc.
And that mindset of taking initiative and then innovative in order to make something that is worthy, feasible, is one of the key threads across everything that you've described. From that particular unit where you were taught And you later internalize the notion that everything is feasible or possible until proven otherwise.
And this mindset of looking for problems that are worthy and then finding a way to make them feasible. So that's one, I would say, main thread. In addition, if you look at all of those activities, they all involve certain skills. And those skills include, of course, technological innovation.
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Chapter 4: Why is human judgment essential in security decisions?
And then operational innovation. Operational innovation typically has to do with people. And I think about it as moving people in time and space. Think about it. That's what coaches do. That's not what accountants do. Accountants don't move people in time and space. They move data. They're doing analytical work. Engineers don't move people. So there's the element of technology.
There's the element of operations. Then there's the element of leadership. Whenever you're doing something new, you always need to convince people. You need to influence them, whether it's a prime minister, whether it's your senior executive, whether it's your team members, your partners. That's another very important thread.
And of course, once you move into the business world, there is business complexity, financial complexity, and that is also a common thread. So those are the common threads. With regard to what drove me, I always look for worthy and feasible problems to solve. Clearly, the problem of personal security and peace of mind, Brian, is a big problem that troubles billions of people globally.
I thought it was, of course, worthy. And once I realized that it's feasible technologically, operationally, from a business perspective, etc., here we are.
Chapter 5: How are enterprises integrating personal security into their duty of care?
That's amazing. Thank you so much. And I like to highlight a few things from the guest perspective, where it all started. We talked about your service, your incredible service in elite units in the Israeli Defense Forces. We were presented with complex problems all the time and you had to solve those. And you mentioned two things, taking initiative and innovation to tackle these problems.
And as you mentioned, everything is feasible until improvement and possible. But that element, everything has an element of technology, operations and leadership. And you talked a little bit about that leadership where leadership is is where you need to move people. And that is, of course, as we talked about before the podcast started, people is what makes the world go around. So thank you.
And Duran, Bond combines AI-driven software with live human agents in operational command centers. Why did you decide not to go fully automated? And how do you think about the right balance between machine speed and human judgment in real security incidents?
Excellent question. So it all starts, and I recommend that to everybody, we're asking ourselves, what's the mission? Sometimes I hear people saying, what are the first principles? I say, no, no, no, scrap that. Think about it in a way that's intuitive to you. What are we trying to accomplish? What we're trying to accomplish right now is making people safer and feeling safer.
Those are the two missions of Bond, increased personal security and the feeling of being safe. That means that AI is one of the tools that we have.
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Chapter 6: What challenges does Bond face in democratizing personal security?
And of course, humans, in order to help other humans be and feel safer, is another capability. At this point in time, it's clear to us that the humans, whom we're responsible for, they're the goal. AI is the means, one of them. People are the mission. In order for them to be safer, in order for them to feel safer, humans today want to interact with humans.
And the level of comfort that they have with machines or with AI is at level X. I'm not going to specify what that is. During the course of our journey, we need to, of course, use AI and other technologies in order to be more effective, more efficient. You talked about speed, in order to detect and in order to make the right decisions and then take the right action.
And over time, technologies are going to play an increasing role in that.
Chapter 7: How does AI enhance personal security while maintaining human involvement?
But today, what is clear to us, Brian, is that one of the core capabilities of Bond is our promise that if you're a Bond member, that's an end user, if you want a Bond personal security agent, you get it in five seconds. You click a button like video monitor me, and you get a bond agent on your phone in five seconds, you're never alone again.
Now think about the human psychology around that, of not being alone again. Who promises this anywhere in the world today? No one. And what people want, what the customers, the members want, is they want another human to look after them. Now they want to know that that human is super equipped, juiced up in our command centers with access to first responders.
with AI and other technologies that allow this person to make quick decisions and take quick action. It could be that over the course of this journey, AI will eventually also make the decisions. Today, we don't let AI make the decisions. AI is in decision support role and in an execution support role. In other words, AI can detect if you activate a service called track me on the go,
Our AI can detect in real time that, say, Lisa is not on the right route, not in the right speed, perhaps stop where she shouldn't. And then immediately the AI activates the agent, and the agent reaches out to Lisa to check what's going on with her and to help her. So in summary, both play a pivotal role. The humans who help humans and the AI that helps the humans who help the humans.
And over time, as we see that our members become more comfortable and they want AI to play a greater role, that may change. Take an example. There are now cabs that are driving themselves. I spoke with my wife.
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Chapter 8: What does the future of personal security look like according to Doron Kempel?
She says, who wants to be in those cars right now? And I'll say, you wait. And in a while, people are going to ask, Who wants humans to drive them when you can have more reliable bots driving them? So it's just a matter of time, but we need to remember all the time, the mission are the humans. The means is the AI.
Thank you. And again, just to repeat that, humans are the mission and the means is AI, which... Again, we talk about AI in the last couple of years here. It's being more prevalent in our everyday lives. But again, you talked about what is the mission? What are we trying to accomplish? It's humans, right? Increase that personal security and provide that feeling of being safe.
99% of humans, in my experience, don't want to feel or be alone. And I like how you can provide that sense of security with your platform. So thank you, Duran. And Durant, Bond has been gaining traction with large corporations as a benefit for employees. How are enterprises thinking about personal security as part of their duty of care? And how does that B2B channel change your growth strategy?
Terrific. What the audience can reflect upon is the fact that revolutions at the onset are very subtle. We don't know that it's happening. For instance, we see that people are not coming to the office during COVID. We say, oh, it's going to pass. It has not passed. This has transformed the way that we work. Or we say to ourselves, oh, people are using BlackBerrys a few years ago.
It's just a niche. No, everybody now has a smartphone. So once a certain technology allows all of us to see that something that wasn't possible before is possible, that creates a revolution. We're now in the midst of a personal security and peace of mind revolution. What we're doing
is something that has not been feasible, not economically, not operationally, not technologically before, and that is having everybody feel that they're not alone. Our ability to take care of people, not only when they're in the protected buildings, if it's corporate buildings, university buildings, government buildings, or personal buildings, but when we're out and about.
By having a bond agent on your phone, we deliver the witness and a recorded camera. And most perpetrators, that's what all law enforcement people know, want to stay away from cameras and witnesses, which we deliver in five seconds. By making that possible, possible in terms of effective and affordable and privacy-preserving, we've now created a new reality.
But in order for that revolution to occur, what we need are leaders. And here I want to give a lot of credit For the leaders of the largest corporations in the world, Brian, who've already decided to offer Bond to all types of their employees, their store employees, their home care nurses, their salespeople, drivers, people who work from home. So that is the beginning.
And if you think about the companies that are Bond customers, they include, Brian, one of the three largest companies in the world in terms of employees and in terms of revenues. one of the three largest smartphone companies in the world, one of the three largest telecommunications companies in the world, entertainment companies, retailers, and so forth.
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