Chasing the Wimbledon dream

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Stuart Maconie 0:00
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James Reynolds 0:43
Hello, I'm James Reynolds. Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. In BBC Conversations, we bring people together to share their experiences. And this time, it's with those trying to make it in tennis.
James Reynolds 1:06
If, like me, you love sport, then there is plenty to enjoy right now with the Football World Cup, Cycling's Tour de France and tennis at Wimbledon. Here in Britain, 23-year-old Arthur Ferry has become the surprise breakout star at London's Grand Slam tournament. Few knew his name until his impressive run, which has brought him fame and no doubt a welcome payday. Runs like this for players ranked outside the top 100, such as Ferry, are rare. And that's why we're discussing today the emotional and financial challenges on the professional tennis circuit away from the spotlight. So let's hear from two players, Hamish Stewart from Scotland, who's ranked in the top 300. And firstly, Jamie Loeb from the US.
James Reynolds 1:54
She's currently ranked outside the top 1000. Talent aside, what's also required for one year on the circuit is plenty of money.
Jamie Loeb 2:05
If you want to do it the right way, definitely, I'd say at least $100,000. Having a coach, having proper training, treatment, being able to go and travel and play tournaments.
Hamish Stewart 2:19
I would be in a similar ballpark. I don't think quite my budget's in that territory. So it's sort of like you need to make some sacrifices for certain things. But yeah, to do it right, it's not a cheap sport. That's for sure.
James Reynolds 2:32
So that's spending $100,000. That's before you make any income. You've been at a pretty high point in the rankings, in the top 132 in the world, and you're at a lower point now. Are there times you just make a loss when you're competing at a tournament?
Jamie Loeb 2:47
Yeah, for sure. And there's been parts of my career where I was profiting a bit, a lot of times just breaking even just because of the expenses, and then at a loss. And sometimes you kind of know that going into a certain tournament that you're there to hopefully gain points to get your ranking up to then get into bigger tournaments, and then that will set you up. And then there are some weeks where you're like, oh, I have a little bit of cushion, but I feel like it's more weeks now breaking even or at a loss than really gaining.
James Reynolds 3:20
And on a practical level then, let's take an example of a tournament. If you lose the opening match, does what you get for one match pay even your hotel bill?
Jamie Loeb 3:29
Most of the time, no. And that's why for me, a lot of times I try to stay with host families when I'm playing tournaments so I can at least save money in that regard. But then you have 10 more expenses to catch up on. So yeah, if you see some of the first round lost paychecks, sometimes it doesn't even get you a dinner. Yeah.
Hamish Stewart 3:51
I think it's very hard to get ahead at times as well. Like if you have a great week and maybe make some money, but then you lose first round the next week, that's that almost gobbled up. And it also brings around like a little bit of pressure as well, right? Like, um, Not only have you lost first round, you haven't gained any points, but you've also lost money in the week. So it really can be deflating sometimes, particularly first round exit. There has been times, I think, definitely where it's been in my head in matches, but I think maybe slightly less now.
James Reynolds 4:23
Jamie, you've had a phenomenal college career, but of course you had personal issues along the way. Can you talk us through that journey?
Jamie Loeb 4:31
Yeah, you know, I definitely did have a successful college career and that actually earned me one NCAAs, which is a big collegiate tournament in the U.S. And that propelled me to getting a main draw wildcard to the U.S. Open, which set up a lot of opportunities for me. And I feel early on in my career.

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