The Dom Harvey Podcast
Simon Gault on Losing 32kg, MasterChef, and NZ School Lunch "Rubbish"
18 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Coming up, Simon Galt turned out to be a guy called Larry Ellison from Oracle.
Oh, wow.
At the end of the evening, the chief stewardess said, you know, Larry would like to meet you properly. And I thought, well, this would be interesting. She said, he doesn't normally ask for the chef to go out.
I'm like, okay.
So anyway, I get out there and he said, how are you? And I remember exactly what I said. I said, well, I'm fucked. I've just flown halfway around the world and cooked you dinner. And I could see the look on the chief stewardess's like, that's it, you're done. That was the shortest job in history. Anyway, Larry says, pull up a seat. One of the best jobs I've ever had in my life. It was incredible.
Simon Gould is a man who wears many hats. He's a celebrity chef, although he hates that title. He's an entrepreneur. He's a pilot. But most importantly, he's a dad. In this podcast conversation, he let his guard down in ways that I was not expecting. We discuss his early years in the kitchen under the notoriously prickly Tony Astle. Actually, Tony's a previous podcast guest.
If you haven't heard that episode, it's well worth looking out for it. He also has stories from working as the personal chef for Larry Allison when he was the world's second richest man, building Euro with Leo Malloy, and navigating fame during MasterChef at its peak.
Then there's all the non-work stuff, becoming a dad at 50, losing his father to motor neuron disease and what assisted dying looked like in practice, and his own health journey with type 2 diabetes, losing 32 kilos, and the habits that he now swears by. When I asked Simon Galt to be a guest, I expected it to be a great episode, but this conversation we had exceeded all my expectations.
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Chapter 2: How did Simon Gault become a personal chef for Larry Ellison?
But, you know, so then, you know, you end up on TV and then you sort of, you go somewhere like, you know, it's been on BBC Asia or Amazon and people go, oh, you're that guy.
You're the celebrity chef. Yeah. So what does day-to-day life look like for you these days? You're not in the day-to-day running of restaurants, are you?
No, got out of there.
You get instead of normal hours?
Yeah, within reason. I mean, I still do cooking classes. I've got a deli in St. John's and then a smaller one out in Takanini in Auckland. So it's kind of like walking into a really cool kitchen that's a shop. So through my restaurants years ago, I lived in Italy, came back to New Zealand, couldn't find these things that I wanted and started bringing them in.
You soon realise you can't just bring one wheel of cheese or... you've got to bring a bunch. So by default, I ended up in that business. So now I'm doing cooking classes in there for those that want to do it, corporates. You get the the CEO hand-stretching a pizza with his forklift driver or just people, public, who want to come and learn how to cook Sri Lankan or master how to cook a steak.
And that's my game. So it's kind of my restaurant fix because I miss the restaurants. I've lived and breathed them all my life since I left school. And I do miss that. It's good fun. But the deli is that sort of, you know, it's like I only do 10 people. So it's like 10 people coming for dinner. They can bring their own wine. I cook.
They come around and get in if they feel like getting their hands dirty.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did Simon face while working in the restaurant industry?
And it's really good. And then I'm trying to do all of these things as quickly as possible. Like you are in a restaurant, you're sort of conducting an orchestra with all these meals going out. So it's full on and it's great fun. And that's my restaurant fix. You love the theatre of it, don't you? I do. You love the drama of it.
It's like, I remember when I first thought, I want to work in a restaurant. I want to own a restaurant. When I was in a restaurant as a young kid and I saw the head chef and it was kind of like he was conducting this orchestra that culminated in these amazing plates of food. And I'm like, that's a bit of me. You know, you've got a team around you that all work together in harmony.
And you've got to be that guy conducting that orchestra. And I do like that. I love it. And I love, you know, the service. You know, they say the service time in a restaurant is where it all happens. You know, your early bookings are late. Your late bookings are early. Everybody wants to eat at once. And it's all go. And it's just great fun.
What do you miss most and least about the day-to-day of running a restaurant?
Well...
Probably the hours. I mean, I'm a dad, I'm a single dad, so I've got a 12-year-old daughter, and restaurants and being a dad's pretty hard work. I mean, I literally used to, back in the day, I'd get my daughter off to preschool, race into work, do lunch service, come home, pick her up, get dinner organised, tuck her into bed, pay her nanny, go back to work.
And one night I was driving home, and I live out South Auckland on a lifestyle property, I'm driving home, and yet again, roadworks, motorway, detour, an extra 20 minutes, and next morning I drove into work and I said to my business partner, Merry Christmas, here's half a restaurant. And it's the best thing I ever did. Best thing I ever did. Because I want to be remembered as a dad.
You know, I'm an older dad. I didn't have my daughter until I was a bit older than most. 49, 50? Yep. Did you think that ship had sailed for you? Yes, I did. Yeah, I did. And then when she popped out, it was like somebody just reached out, flicked the switch, and everything was different for me. Now, looking after her was the service that I loved in a restaurant. There was something better.
This beautiful little girl who became my world. And do I want to be remembered as that guy that was always at work at night? I want her to remember me as a dad, not that chef guy.
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Chapter 4: How does Simon balance his career and fatherhood?
It was amazing. I remember one day I'm cooking at the house, and he comes into the kitchen halfway through lunch and says, you're going flying this afternoon. I'm like... who's cooking your dinner? He said, oh, we'll worry about that later. And so I turn up out at the airport and the pilot's there and he opens the hangar doors.
And you could, I was in my chef's jacket and you could see him, oh God, I've got to take the cook for a fly. And this is quite funny, really. So he opens up and there's all these cool airplanes in there. And he says, you know, what do you want to go for a fly? And there was There was a jet fighter. There was a pit special.
There was a Pilatus PC-7, which is a turbine rocket ship that military air forces around the world used to train their pilots. And I said, oh, I've flown. I used to own a pit special because I had one previously. And I said, but I'd like to go in that. You could see him sort of, okay, well, you fly.
If you can fly a pit special, then you must be reasonable because that's a high-performance aerobatic aeroplane. So he briefed me on, you know, getting rid of the canopy and said, you can sit in the front. And anyway, we go for a fly. And he talks me about it all. I'd never flown a turbine aeroplane before, so this thing was a rocket ship. Anyway, I'm sitting in the front and take off.
I have to stay low because it's very close to San Francisco Airport. Fly out to this place called Half Moon Bay to do some aerobatics because obviously I'm an aerobatic pilot, having owned a pit special. And he said, oh, show me some aerobatics. So I was just sort of getting a feel for it, flying it around. And this guy in the back was getting a little impatient.
And he said, do you want me to do some aerobatics? And I'm like, okay. So anyway, I thought, bugger you. So I pointed the thing at the ground, got some speed up, pulled up vertically, did a vertical roll on the way up, stall turn over the top. He never told me you're not supposed to do stall turns in a turbine. And then a vertical roll on the way down. And all I can hear from the back seat is...
We became very good friends. Larry comes into the kitchen that evening, big smile on his face saying, I hear you're quite good at aerobatics. And he said, you can have an hour a week in it. Go fly it an hour a week. And that was great. That was like, you know, multi-million dollar airplane that I was having a play in with courtesy of Larry. He was an amazing guy. I mean, he loved food.
The only thing that he ever decided what he was having was breakfast. Real food. He loved Japanese food. I really enjoyed it. We'd go to somewhere like Alaska or all these crazy places, Mexico. And so the first thing I'd do is get into a hotel and try and learn the local cuisine overnight, which is pretty hard to do. Then Larry would turn up and I'd do my version of it.
Yeah, awesome, awesome guy to work for. You probably only ever cook him one bad meal, I guess. He's a hard taskmaster. You know, you hear about him with the sailing and things. You know, he doesn't like losing. He likes winning. And I remember one day we were in Bora Bora and it was going to be a challenge between the guests and the crew with these outrigger races.
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Chapter 5: What experiences shaped Simon Gault's relationship with flying?
But we'll just get her up in the air and see. I've taken her power flying. And the first time I took her, you know, I said, oh, go and fly over your mum's house. And we're going around and around and around and around. She couldn't see her mum who was standing out in the middle of the road. And finally she saw her and I thought, right, we've gone around and around a lot here and we went off.
And then she said, Dad, can we do a roll? So I did a roll and then I looked at her and she was white. And I thought, I need to get this thing on the ground in a big hurry. My dad had said to me, whatever you do, don't do any aerobatics on the first flight with her. And I didn't listen to that. But we've since been flying, and she's an ace now.
Loosens off her strap, flies it round, loves going upside down.
Yeah, you see your dad, Brian Galt. Yeah. That's where the love of flying come from, which seems like it's going to be passed down to another generation. And you lost your dad in June last year. Yep. 2024. So who was Brian Galt?
He was the most awesome dad in the world, and I was lucky that what he did for a living ended up being my passion. And when I wanted to learn how to fly, I remember him saying, and I guess I'm sort of deviating onto the flying thing, but... He said, if you want to learn how to fly, get yourself out to the gliding club and learn how to fly a glider, and that will make you a better pilot.
And he had really nothing to do with my flying and was not really interested. It was kind of like, do it on your own. And eventually, once I became a glider pilot, he came out and started getting involved. And then eventually, I said to him, Dad, you're really good at this. How about you teach me how to fly powder airplanes, which he did.
And then he sent me solo in a Harvard, which is an ex-Air Force Harvard, 49 years after he'd flown it in the Air Force in the same Harvard. And that was a pretty cool dad-son experience to do. And then with my love of flying, I bought an airplane called a Mustang with three other guys.
and brought it to New Zealand and super high performance, fastest piston engine airplane in New Zealand, like a real weapon. And that's when I said to Dad, could you test fly it?
for us which he did and then he taught us all how to fly and then eventually so he did all the air shows in it originally going around and displaying it at you know Wanaka air show and all the big air shows and then he taught me how to do that but those trips away together flying and Poor weather conditions, great weather conditions. It was just the ultimate father-son thing to do.
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Chapter 6: How did Simon Gault's father's illness influence his perspective on life?
And I'm so grateful for him. And, you know, he worked in the import business that we started to supply my restaurants. He ran that after he retired. He worked until the day he had a stroke, actually. And, yeah, the most incredible father, supportive, so grateful.
Yeah, I've got a photo here. I don't know what the plane is in the background, but it's a photo of you and him. That's the Harvard that he sent me solo in, yeah. Yeah, it seems like it was a really special relationship. And ultimately it was motor neuron disease that got him. What does that look like in real terms? What is motor neuron disease? Horrendous. Yeah, horrendous.
Is that where your body just stops working?
Yeah, everything stops working. So in the end, unfortunately, he was...
bedridden and couldn't do it but you know my dad being his dad when he found out that he had motor neuron disease and heard the outcome because eventually you know you can't swallow you can't you can do nothing it's a horrendous way to die and he took advantage of the assisted death and that takes some balls right and so he was straight on to that and
Yeah, that was, and, you know, thank you to our leader, David Seymour, not leader, but, you know, who brought that in because, you know, that would have been, it was bad enough to watch what it was, and I remember when Dad said, you know, it was scheduled for six weeks away and things started to decline, and he just looked at me and said, make the call.
How did that look? The reason I ask this, I had a lady on the podcast last year called Tracy Hickman, and we did the podcast. She chose to go the same way. I heard her. She did it on the beach, right? Yeah, incredible. Went to the beach, had a Bluetooth speaker, had some friends there, and everything went exactly the way that she planned it, which is perfect because she was a planner.
Yeah, how was it for your dad? So I just sort of imagined that when someone did this, it was going to be like a cold sort of... Colts had adopted surgery or something.
No, it was a hospice in Manurewa, and they do the work of angels. They are incredible. Hence, I try and help them with fundraising where I can. The people there were just angels, is the only way you can say it. They were incredible. We were all around him. The night before, I went and got a bottle of wine, put a straw in the glass, and...
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Chapter 7: What lifestyle changes did Simon Gault make after his diabetes diagnosis?
Well, he was an amazing singer. He actually did a record and he sang opera and was, you know, he was a great golfer. Both, you know, he played off, you know, I think he was a one handicap golfer. one or two. His brother was a great golfer who became captain of St Andrews. He loved golf and he was a great singer. And my sister ended up singing as well and she's a great singer.
So yes, there was that song sung and it's pretty hard to talk about. Well, it's still quite recent.
It's like a year and a bit.
Chapter 8: What are Simon Gault's thoughts on legacy and being a father?
Yeah. But you kind of hope it's always hard to talk about, I guess, because it means he's still there.
Yeah, it'll always be hard to talk about it and it'll always get me probably. When do you miss him most? Oh, all the time. I often think about him and life has a limit. We're all going to die, right? So you've just got to get on with it. But I've got so many incredible memories and stories and... You know, just good things that are, you know, and he wouldn't want me sitting here bloody crying.
He'd want me, you know, he would hate me talking about him, you know. Yeah, he's the most humble guy. You know, I've had so many people who he taught how to fly the 747-400 for Air New Zealand. He was a training captain and he said, you know, what your old man didn't know about flying those things wasn't worth knowing. And, you know, I think I had a,
out of a legend of a father in the aviation industry. You know, super highly respected. And, you know, they were a team, my mum and her, you know. I've got an incredible mother who tells me everything every day, and she's normally bloody right.
Yeah. Is she still around?
She's still around, kicking, and she tells me she's passed a use-by date, but she's, you know, they have, you know...
both my sister and i and even hazel is the granddaughter of you know we've been very lucky and that's why family is so important to me we're a very tight-knit family and you know that's what family's about sitting at a dinner table breaking bread and being on one another's side even when you've done something wrong you know yeah um were your mum and dad married till the end Yep.
Yeah.
66 years? That sounds about right. Yeah, they were together a long time. Yeah. How's she coping? She's done pretty well. I think, you know, she was a full-time carer in the end, so when suddenly that role disappears, it's pretty hard. Unfortunately, my mum has a disorder called neuropathy, which is where your legs suddenly don't work and things, so...
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